<p>Okay one more general common app question. If my counselor/teachers fill out a recommendation online, do they have to fill one out for every school on “my colleges” list or if they do it once will it automatically send it to all my colleges?</p>
<p>So for example, if my counselor and my teachers submit their recommendations for my UPenn ED, and later I find out that I got rejected, do they have to complete their recommendations again for a new school or will the recommendations already be completed when I add a new school?</p>
<p>@americanschools Whenever Cornell’s ED deadline is</p>
<p>@powerbomb You don’t have to. If you have already filled out the section for your recommenders on commonapp.com, you’ll notice that there can be an unlimited number of recommenders and you get to choose two from them for each school. In other words, your teachers will submit their letters online, and when you choose two teachers as your recommender for a particular school, the letters from those two teachers will be automatically directed to the college. Yes, you do have to do a little manipulation for your application to each college, but it’s by far not as troublesome as completing the letters all over again.</p>
<p>@Mathematicism…Gotcha. So my counselor and teachers are not really submitting the recommendations to the school, but rather commonapp and it’s me who then submits the recommendations already saved on commonapp to different colleges. right?</p>
<p>@Mathematicism - 3 more questions for you, haha. You are applying ED to Penn, right? Have you tried filling out the Canadian Financial Aid Application, yet? If so, how are we supposed to know what our EFC is (Section B)? Do we randomly pull figures from our head or is there some sort of official EFC calculator type of thing that we’re supposed to use, like FAFSA (but Canadians don’t use FAFSA, right?) </p>
<p>Also, in Section D, how are we supposed to fill out the blanks under 2010 if we don’t have 2010 tax forms yet? Again, are we supposed to straight up estimate? Or should my parents have something to go off of…because they don’t seem to have ANYTHING 2010-related. </p>
<p>Lastly, on Penn’s financial aid website under Canadian Financial Aid Checklist, you see how they ask for “federal provincial income tax returns, all pages, schedules, and T-4 slips”?? Federal provincial income tax returns is the same thing as T-1 General forms, right…? And is it okay that my parents don’t have any “schedules”? or should they…?</p>
<p>Sorry if I’m annoying you, but you seem to be on top of things.</p>
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<li><p>There’s a official EFC calculator on Collegeboard.com. (which is the one I used) Canadians don’t use FAFSA. Actually, nobody can use FAFSA for ED as its release date is later than most schools’ ED deadline.</p></li>
<li><p>Strangely, I didn’t find any information that require the 2010 tax return form under Section D. If you’re talking about Section E, we’re only expected to provide an estimation.</p></li>
<li><p>I’ve been wondering about that also. What I’m most likely going to do is just sending them everything bit of information I could find.</p></li>
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<p>mathematicism - I think you’re looking at a past application…Mine definitely says</p>
<p>“The line references below are for 2009. For 2010, use the corresponding lines from 2010 tax forms.”</p>
<p>Also, what tax forms are you faxing in? I currently have T-1 General, T-4 Slips, Schedule 1, Form 428, and Notice of Assessment. These are all the tax paperwork that my parents had.</p>
<p>^ I pretty much just used Canadian tax info (which is what colleges will be using anyways). I selected Washington as my home state when calculating Collegeboard EFC, since demographic-wise it has a lot in common with my home province (BC）. By the way, you should try the CC EFC calculator, which actually offers Canadian provinces as a option for home state.</p>
<p>@math - on the financial aid application, what does “university school” mean? Like CAS? UPenn? or my secondary school? and what am I supposed to write for my graduation date? 2015 or 2011?</p>
<p>Have you guys read the post below or known about how hard it is to get out ED agreement? After reading this post, especially reasons 2 and 3, I am thinking perhaps I should re-plan the whole early application thing. (I was gonna ED to Cornell engineering) This IS a big pain!!
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? </p>
<p>Because you can not compare financial aid offers since once you get an ED acceptance, you are expected to immediately withdraw other applications. You can’t wait until you see what offers you get in April. This means that you can’t negotiate with the college by comparing your need-based aid or merit aid offer from the ED college with another college’s need-based or merit aid offer.</p>
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<li><p>The college may feel that it has met your demonstrated financial need, but your parents may disagree. As a result, it could be a big hassle to be released from your ED. While the ED college won’t sue you or force you to attend it, it can make life miserable for you and your GC, and if you back out of ED other similarly ranked colleges may not accept you.</p></li>
<li><p>If you back out of ED, your GC may not put much effort into helping you get into other places because the GC probably will have done a great deal to support your application to the ED school, even recommending you over other students who aren’t applying there ED. In addition, the ED college may blame your GC for your backing out. Certainly, you still will be able to get into some colleges if you withdraw from an ED acceptance, but you aren’t likely to get into colleges ranked as high as your ED one was. You also may not get merit aid from colleges that base merit aid partially on GC recommendations. For instance, some colleges allow only one student per high school to be recommended for their top merit aid.</p></li>
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<p>I would ask northstarmom to say which schools have made life miserable for applicants in this situation; it sounds like rumors (except for American University, which says that it sends a letter of reprimand to ED applicants (and to their GCs) who decline for financial reasons if AU doesn’t offer enough FA to support attendance). </p>
<p>For schools that use the Common Application, here is the ED financial aid rule:
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<p>Some schools do compare notes, and if you decline an ED FA offer, other schools that offer the same FA may not admit you because you declined, but it’s moot, since you couldn’t afford the others either.</p>
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