You’re going to be a great student at a very good school. But it won’t be Ivy or MIT or Stanford or Chicago . . . your SAT is just too low, and your class rank suggests your school may have some grade inflation – and your admissions officers will likely be aware of that. (Unless your school is swimming in geniuses.)
Sure, apply to Ivies for kicks, if you can afford it and don’t mind writing the supplements. But apply to more realistic schools too.
@WasatchWriter and @ucbalumnus Not applying to Ivies lol. I didn’t work hard enough in High school for that. Med school yea, I will work my butt off in college and put forth effort, but for now its UVA, VCU, CNU, JMU, and VT. (colleges in Virginia)
Consider this: Yale Law School has as an endowment of over billion dollars. Much larger than most state flagship universities. Now, consider it supports less than 700 full time students…,
It was amazing. The only thing that could have made it better is if I had drank less.
If you were to do well enough to be admitted to Hopkins med school, I’m sure you would do fine there.
bragging rights.
They apply because so many of the Ivy schools give the best financial aid. For us, Princeton would have been less expensive than UT. MIT aid was almost the same as Princeton.
I’ve never been to a doctor who didn’t have his degrees plastered all over the office.
Doctors plaster their diplomas all over their offices for a good reason. It’s one way to inspire confidence that you’re probably not dealing with a quack. A diploma from just about any LCME-accredited US med school will do. The price and quality differences among US colleges seem to be much greater than the price and quality differences among US medical schools.
Huh, most doctors don’t have offices and that’s an antiquated idea and expression. My wife has a MD and several other sub fellowships that include JHU and UCSF, and all those diplomas are in the garage in a plastic container.
I, too, would say that I got an amazing undergrad education at Harvard. I felt like a kid in a candy store – so many things to learn, such great libraries, faculty doing really interesting and important work. And lots of freedom to choose your own adventure. That said, for all I know, I would have gotten an equally amazing (albeit different) education at Johns Hopkins or University of Chicago or Berkeley. And I’m not at all sure how many of my Harvard classmates got amazing educations – college, at least in a place with excellent resources, is what you make of it and different people want different things. I think “Ivies” is a meaningless category, at least from an educational standpoint.
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for many it gives them some sort of validation.
sadly not only would a lot of stress be removed for those who are so eager to get in and attend an ivy…if they only realized freaking out over a designer name is not worth it! and more importantly if they actually looked at more schools than some tiny list…they might find a school with a much better fit and a happier more supportive undergrad experience/education.
Well for finance, the undergrad school is VERY important. On-campus recruiting and alumni connections are solely based on the name of the undergrad school
You increase your chances of making it to Wall Street by at least 10 times compared to going to your state school (other than uva and umich)
@deeeznuts is there a source for that?
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/
There’s a bunch of nice info on there.
http://poetsandquants.com/2014/04/01/the-real-skinny-on-wall-street-pay/
here’s another interesting stat. Even if you make it on wall street as a non-target, you make less compared to your ivy-league grad co-workers
@deeeznuts that’s depressing… Thank god I don’t like business. But it looks like the higher rank you are the more you get paid for non target schools. For managing director its 608k for target, and 1mil for non target. That’s a plus
Yea I found that interesting too. And UVA is a target school lol.
But yea, good luck
@deeeznuts thanks lol, but I just applied there for kicks. I want to go to vcu, but the internet is telling me vcu has a lot of grade deflation, and as a pre med I don’t want that. Do you know anything about that?
Hmm never heard of grade deflation at VCU, not sure though. But yeah if you’re pre-med, prestige really doesn’t matter. Find the best fit