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What about the poor old four-year students (say, from a private school) who realize they can't afford an education at their school? Where do they have to turn? (This is where the case by case basis thing should come in.)
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It's not like you aren't allowed to apply. You can still apply and have a chance (especially if you can establish California residency). The community college students, however, get priority, rightfully so.</p>
<p>you said it kj, for the most part, doesnt necessarily mean its 100% accurate, therefore, the system is fair.</p>
<p>You're telling me that it's fair for someone who didnt do as well in hs to take a short cut to a school like UCB (after proving themselves in CC) and to be given priority to someone who say, goes to UCSD with equal grades, but were obviously smart enough to get into a top school out of hs. You still want (and have earned) the opportunity to go to UCB and you may not get in because someone who screwed around in high school gets top priority? AND I really doubt any CC are as challenging as UCSB</p>
<p>"because someone who screwed around in high school gets top priority?"</p>
<p>You just dont get it...</p>
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You're telling me that it's fair for someone who didnt do as well in hs to take a short cut to a school like UCB (after proving themselves in CC) and to be given priority to someone who say, goes to UCSD with equal grades, but were obviously smart enough to get into a top school out of hs.
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First of all, intercampus transfers ALSO get priority, after community college students. Secondly, this is extremely reasonable because the student at UCSD is already at a UC; the community college student is looking for a space within the system (this has been mentioned numerous times).</p>
<p>And I'm not talking about all schools. If you go to a CC you should obviously have the opportunity to go to a 4 year school if you've earned it. But for a school like UCB or UCLA? I would feel bad the students at the other UCs that want the opportunity (and are more qualified) to go.</p>
<p>If the other students were so much more qualified why did they not go there in the first place?</p>
<p>KJ, perhaps you would like to take some classes in a CC?
also, you act like UC students do not also get consideration in transfering. Look, CCs get priority, then later comes a student @ a UC, whats the big deal? You arguing over it is not going to change anything; its fair, deal with it. lol</p>
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If the other students were so much more qualified why did they not go there in the first place?
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<p>because they screwed around in HS too...</p>
<p>hehe that is my point.</p>
<p>lol hell yeah! transfer pride :)</p>
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And I'm not talking about all schools. If you go to a CC you should obviously have the opportunity to go to a 4 year school if you've earned it. But for a school like UCB or UCLA? I would feel bad the students at the other UCs that want the opportunity (and are more qualified) to go.
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The fact you brought up UCSD makes your whole argument almost a joke. We should feel bad for the student who goes to the HORRIBLE, MEASLY UCSD who gets slightly lower priority than a community college student who will succeed similarly in his education and isn't currently at a university?</p>
<p>I never said that! My understanding of the article was that CC students always get priority, even the students that need a "second chance" because they didnt do well in hs. I'm not saying that under all circumstances a CC students shouldnt get priority. Geesh, you guys are twisting my words. Like I said, the article said that priority is given to students looking for a second chance and college. Not merely students who couldnt afford a four year or had to stay close to home or decided to work instead. I was under the assumption, because of the wording of the article, that in the case of a CC student and a UC student, both with an equal college GPA, both with the ability to afford a four year, and nothing keeping them at home in particular, priority would go to the CC student despite say, low hs stats.</p>
<p>Why do you keep bringing up HS stats? HS is irrelevant after 2 years of CCC achievements.</p>
<p>but HS stats are never counted for both parties? lol</p>
<p>And I used UCSD as an example because while it's a top school and you had to get good grades to get accepted, it doesnt have the same prestige as UCB. Maybe you didnt have the grades to get into UCB out of hs, but you were a lot closer than a CC college student who is more likely to get in after 2 years of college, despite the fact UCSD is more challenging than the CC.</p>
<p>I bring up hs school stats because for someone to work hard for 6 years in school versus someone who worked hard for 2 years in college to get priority isnt fair</p>
<p>Then that person went to UCSD for the wrong reason. Students enter UCSD as freshmen in order to work towards a 4-year degree from UCSD. That is UCSD's goal: to confer degrees to their students. If that person's intent was to transfer, that person should have gone to a CCC with the goal of transfering.</p>
<p>hmm...good point</p>
<p>And life isn't fair...obviously. Also, I'm confused? 6 years? Last time I checked high school was four years..am I missing something?</p>