'Why go to college?'

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@MiamiDAP

"who is informed and educated on an issue or topic and the opinion of a person who is not. "</p>

<p>-Again, I disagree that person who is informed and educated will hold correct opinion and person who is not will be wrong.

I haven’t said that an educated person will always have a ‘better’ opinion (I define better as ethical and useful to society), nor have I said that a person who is uneducated is incapable of this. However, it’s absurd of you to say that an educated person is more likely to have a better perspective or be able to see an issue from multiple perspectives and form a ‘better’ opinion than someone who cannot do the above. An education is the best way to gain this knowledge and perspective.

And again, you are trying to change my opinion despite my warning that it is futile.

Yet I have basis for my opinion and all you have to say about yours is that I’m sticking my nose in other people’s lives. The fact is, everyone is indirectly poking their noses in everyone else’s lives because we live as a society together and we affect each other in indirect ways. That’s why I care if other people have the capacity and the knowledge to be able to think about things fairly, because if we find that the majority of our population cannot, then we start to have big problems (which are not easy to spot since this is the case in global society today).

You can express your opinion, but do not try to change others’ because you feel that you know more about subject.

I don’t feel anything. I had an idea, I thought about it some more, expanded on it, and wrote an essay on it that appears in the first few posts. I have good reasons for my assertions I think. Right now you’re not really replying to them.

Let people alone. The idea of education, college education, k-12 education, any education is very personal and nobody should care why one gets education or not.

No, I don’t think ignorant people should be left alone. As I’ve said before, the people around me decide whether or not we live in a good, efficient, successful, and moral society. For this to happen, everyone must be educated.

I am going to classes right now strictly for fun. I have no other aspiration to do so. I am not getting any additional brain power, nor I am planning to use my new skills professionally. Because of people like me, few others in my class have the same fun together and our instructor has a job. We do not care what others think of it. Waste of money/time? Maybe. Saving on shrink’s fees? Maybe. Making fun of us? Maybe. Envy us? Most likely.

I’m unsure of the point you’re making here.</p>

<p>So the basis of most of your argument so far as been to stop being so nosy. Well… if the people who don’t get an educate were to have no say in political and ethical issues, I think there would be less of a problem. The reality, though, is that they do and when you have so many people with that power then you really need to make sure that everyone can make good decisions. One way to augment a persons capacity for good decision making is to get an education (you can refer to my previous posts for a further explanation on this, I’d hate to sound like a broken record).</p>

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@brooklynborndad

“why go to college”? indeed
Folks who never took a single course in macroeconomics, who can’t tell a liqudity preference function from a hole in the ground, tell me with a straight face that keynsianism is socialism.
Folks who never studied climate science, tell me that all climate scientists are part of a socialist conspiracy.
Folks tell me that they dont need to learn about the history or culture of Islam, because they learned all about Islam by watching the twin towers fall on Sept 11th.
And of course they know all about socialism, though they cant say who Kautsky was, how the Revisionists differed from the Leninists, or whether they think the works of the Late Marx are consistent with those of the Early Marx.
Why go to college, when you can be an expert in macroeconomics, climate science, Islamic history, and 19th/early 20th century political ideologies by just listening to the radio on your way to work?

This is exactly what I mean. Such ignorance is detrimental to society and if we’re aiming to rid ourselves from all the dehumanization, hatred, discrimination, religious controversies, and other relevant filth, making sure that everyone sees the big picture is vital. One way to do this is to make sure everyone is educated.</p>

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I don’t know…do many of the majors really “educate you”?..lot of self study at the larger publics. I tend to think a kid getting away from their home and safe zone is what it’s all about…be it college, armed forces, ect.

Sure, but remember general education requirements. It’s not in-depth learning in one area, but at the very least students are exposed to new ideas and encouraged (or required, sometimes) to be able to explain and interpret these ideas and perspectives. These are humanities mostly. Mathematics education teaches people to think in a logical and organized fashion. Science is sort of in between in that it teaches you how to take these logical arguments and interpret them into meaningful information.</p>