<p>What do you mean by socially inhibitive?</p>
<p>anyone know what reputation Phi Delt, SigEp, Delta Chi, and SAE have?</p>
<p>On this and other threads, current NU students have indicated that they don't wish to post or perpetuate stereotypes or reputations of individual fraternities, that the best advice for someone contemplating rush is simply to go meet the different houses and see what develops.</p>
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The fact that other organizations also embody those characteristics doesn't excuse the Greek system from criticism.
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<p>But they also shouldn't be singled out for such criticism.</p>
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The general scholarship has been that Greek life is socially inhibitive during the college years, but from what I gather from this thread, the Greek life at NU is very different. I will study it further before making any conclusions.
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<p>Uhh, isn't this whole thread about Greek life at NU?</p>
<p>k&s, sanjenferrer is saying he came to this thread with the assumption that Greek life at NU = "Greek Life" in general, and is admitting that he may have been wrong. No need to point that out again, I think. </p>
<p>And poohbear, Pizzagirl is absolutely right. These are definitely judgments you should be making for yourself. Things like this</a> can help you make those judgments, though :P</p>
<p>:sigh: I hope they get at least some censure for this. I don't agree that it falls under hazing, but it mars the reputation of the school, and the rest of the greek community.</p>
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No need to point that out again, I think.
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<p>Was it really necessary to point that out? lol</p>
<p>Yep. The difference is, a bunch of DU's do stupid things, and it magically reflects on all Greeks. A bunch of independents do stupid things, and it doesn't reflect on anyone other than themselves.</p>
<p>I had a question I thought I'd put to the CC community: I'm very happy with my decision to rush, particuarly on the levels where it matters. I am curious, though, considering how much it seems it may crowd out other clubs, if being in/ holding positions in a fraternity can be of help for job/fellowship/graduate school applications. i.e. can it help/ be put on a resume?</p>
<p>^^ oh yeah, i have my fraternity stuff on my resume</p>
<p>you have to remember that while something like only 2% of the country is greek, 70% of fortune 500 CEOs are 48% of presidents, etc. putting it on your resume is definitely a good thing, just don't tell an interviewer you did it for the parties (because they probably know that already :p)</p>
<p>As well, the alum network can be of help in getting jobs. I got a job at a certain company graduating from Northwestern; several years later they were hiring, and I was able to put in a good word for a woman in my sorority who was graduating and would be wonderfully qualified, and she got the job. That's not to say that other non-Greek connections can't help as well, of course. I'd certainly put "XXX Officer, XYZ Fraternity / Sorority" on a resume if just graduating.</p>
<p>I think the fraternity I went to didn't like feminists so much. They were "nice" but definitely created a very heteronormative environment. They also degraded women a lot.</p>
<p>Wait, WHAT? You went to a fraternity and they assumed you were a heterosexual? And then they made fun of women? You mean that a group of 18-22 year old males made "inappropiate" jokes?
Someone call the ACLU! Better yet, someone call the Thought Police!</p>
<p>I'm confused about what's going on in this thread.</p>
<p>Fraternities look great on resumes, particularly leadership positions, and they can be awesome networking tools (my frat did a career night last spring where professionals who had graduated came to dinner and talked to us about their jobs and stuff- and now we all have multiple contacts in various fields many of us are interested in. Good stuff!).</p>
<p>"I think the fraternity I went to didn't like feminists so much. They were "nice" but definitely created a very heteronormative environment. They also degraded women a lot."</p>
<p>I would suggest you not join them, then. Just like any group of people you don't click with - move on. I really don't get why it's any "worse" if it's a fraternity versus any random group of guys you might come across in your dorms.</p>
<p>"I think the fraternity I went to didn't like feminists so much. They were "nice" but definitely created a very heteronormative environment."</p>
<p>Most males are heterosexual, so I would imagine it most certainly would be normative for the brothers of SAE to talk about exchanges they had with Theta, or to indicate that they are partnering with AChiO for homecoming floats, or whatever. Do you expect fraternities to be indifferent about doing exchanges with sororities versus with other fraternities? </p>
<p>Also, I am curious as how they degraded women?</p>
<p>"I would suggest you not join them, then. Just like any group of people you don't click with - move on. I really don't get why it's any "worse" if it's a fraternity versus any random group of guys you might come across in your dorms."
I have moved on. The only reason I'm on this thread is because you keep asking questions. I'm not saying it's any worse when in a frat; you are assuming that based on your own defensiveness.</p>
<p>"Most males are heterosexual"
Just because most males are heterosexual doesn't mean they should assume every guy they meet is also heterosexual.</p>
<p>"I would imagine it most certainly would be normative for the brothers of SAE to talk about exchanges they had with Theta, or to indicate that they are partnering with AChiO for homecoming floats, or whatever. Do you expect fraternities to be indifferent about doing exchanges with sororities versus with other fraternities?"
That was not the context of our conversations and not the basis of my observations. </p>
<p>"Also, I am curious as how they degraded women?"
By calling certain sorority girls "cocksuckers."</p>
<p>Well, an independent who talks like that does not reflect all independents, so I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that a Greek who talks like that does not reflect all Greeks. There are crude and crass people everywhere, and whether they've joined a house or not has very little to do with that.</p>
<p>Not really sure how that phraseology would come across in a typical frat party conversation anyway ... How fast after "so, where are you from" and "what's your major" does that happen anyway?</p>
<p>I'd be surprised to hear that sort of degradation of women in my fraternity. That's not to say we're exactly feminists, but we're pretty respectful. But then we're a-typical in a lot of ways. On the whole though I'm not exactly shocked by that. I'm curious what fraternity you decided to go to though.</p>