Will Colleges Forgive My D grade in BC calculus?

<p>I understand it is very bad to get a D on your senior year transcripts :( but I know I can improve to an A in my next and final semester. I applied to every UC except Riverside, Merced and UCLA and as for the Common app schools, I applied to Cornell, UVA and Rice. I sent them Emails explaining my short fall, but how much will that help? This is my first time posting and, based off of reading other posts, I know that some of you guys and get extremely judgmental and negative. However, I will post my stats</p>

<p>GPA: 4.1
SAT: 1830 (520 CR 660 Math 650 Writing)
Subject Tests: Biology, Math LV 1 and 2 and Physics: 700
US History: 800
AP: 5 on Calculus AB and US history, 4 on english lang and 3 on physics
Essays, Awards and Extracurricular: Very solid (some international for athletics) and more importantly, raw and honest
Planned major: Biomed
Senior Year Load; AP Psych, Calc BC, Lit, Spanish Lang, Physics C, Biology</p>

<p>The UCs tend to have conditions of admission indicating that a D or F in senior year on your final transcript will cause admission to be rescinded. Perhaps if you notify them now, some of them may decide you are still admissible with an exception to that condition.</p>

<p>But, even without the D grade, it looks like you have no safeties. Your default safety is to start at a community college. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but if you are pre-med, that will eliminate a small number a medical schools which do not count community college course work at all, and you may have to take some upper division courses in pre-med subjects at the four year school you transfer to for some other medical schools that want to see “confirmation” of your abilities in those subjects.</p>

<p>A D is very, very likely to get you rescinded.</p>

<p>Most likely not</p>

<p>5 on Calculus AB is really nice. And consider how many students didn’t take BC to avoid the struggle which you did not avoid.</p>

<p>I’m new, too, and it looks like some of these people can be extremely prestigious. There’s usually a few supportive individuals in each thread to balance it out, though. I’m not an expert, but considering you’ve taken challenging classes, have a decent SAT score, and a couple stellar AP/SAT Subject test scores, I think you’re still competitive. You may still not get in. I probably won’t get into any of my dream schools, in the end it’s a lottery. XD But if you bring it way up, they might be impressed .If you had an extenuating circumstance, e.g. a family crisis or a debilitating medical concern, they will probably give you some grace. Again, I’m not an expert. Nothing you can do about it now besides try to pull it up, right? :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I thought that the “C or better” rule only applied to UC required courses -meaning the A-G minimum you need to be considered. I think Calc BC would count as an elective at this point (for credit purposes). Sooo while the D would definitely hurt your app, it wouldn’t automatically disqualify you. Correct me if I’m wrong.</p>

<p>Sorry I do not have a nice sugary pill for you to swallow.</p>

<p>@obama6464
I’m in the same boat with the same class…pretty similar stats, except I applied to different schools and have a different major.
I heard if you get a 3,4 or 5 on the AP exam the admissions people will forgive the D/F…is this true?</p>

<p>How would they know you are going to receive the ‘3, 4, or 5’ on the exam that is given in May and score received in July when they are admitting you in March or April?</p>

<p>You were right to send the email, but you need your GC’s help. Asap. The colleges may like some official feedback from the teacher that you are indeed on track- and that isn’t you “telling” them; it comes through the GC.</p>

<p>UVA and Rice are already swarmed with high performing applicants- no predictability for any kid, not even instate at UVA. </p>

<p>You can easily spot the serial sarcastic posters. Hiding behind anonymous screen names tends to makes a small percentage of people enjoy hurting others. That said if the schools you applied to indicated a no lower than a c policy than yes other than that no one here can answer the question. The trade off of this blogs usefulness are the folks that think their job is the hurt you. </p>

<p>@twoinanddone</p>

<p>That’s the point. You don’t know. I’m assuming the the admission people are like “well if he/she gets a score that can get the credit at my school, than maybe the high school teacher was terrible or the material was much harder than it was on the AP test”…I just want to know if the “3,4 or 5 on the AP exam will make up for a D/F” theory is right.</p>

<p>But I’m saying the timing can’t work. You received the D in Jan, right? You applied to schools so the D is there. Then you want to redeem the D by proving you did master the information on the AP exam, which is given in May and reported in July. The school, making a decision in April, doesn’t know what you might score in May.</p>

<p>It’s not that the AP test won’t redeem you, it’s just the timing. I’m not sure the school will hold it against you, just that the AP test doesn’t seem a likely way to prove you’ve learned the material before acceptance.</p>

<p>Are you instate or OOS for UCs? They might forgive it on a case-to-case basis if you’re instate. Definitely not for OOS.</p>

<p>Geo, adcoms don’t guess much. Not when they have thousands lined up.<br>
The more competitive the college, a 5 does not make up for a D or F. </p>

<p>A D will probably hurt your application. They want to see students who improve through high school. Email them and that may help.</p>

<p>@Lookingforward I would not see why a 5 wouldn’t make up for a D or and F. My counselor said if you get an A this semester, it would make up for my D last semester. Not to mention, colleges give credit based off of AP scores, not class grades. I sent the email explaining myself in January and told them I would get a 5 on the BC exam. In other words, I gave them my word. It’s a risk im willing to take @Lilliana330, yeah I’m in state</p>

<p>I don’t want you to be sleepless, but you need to react to this in the best way you can. As ucb said, you need to have safeties. Take action.</p>

<p>First, as Twoin explained, you would get your BC score this summer (and semester grade in May or June,) months after they informed you of their admit decision. They don’t go on personal promises. </p>

<p>Second, even if this were for the future (eg, if you were a junior,) a D in class is a D. That’s the week-to-week classwork that adcoms will look at. So you go off and take a standardized test and get a 5-- the D is still there. </p>

<p>I said, the more competitive the college, a 5 does not make up for a D or F. I am sure there are colleges where a D is understandable. But wherever there is fierce competition, it’s a hurdle. </p>

<p>Add to that, as ucb suggested, look up “conditions of admission” for your UC’s. I only looked at Riverside (before I realized it’s not on your list) and they want no grades lower than C. Others may say, as long as you pass. See what you can learn and talk to your GC. This is all separate from whether you get college credit.</p>

<p>I do have safeties and I was accepted to them (non UCs/CSUs), but I really want to go to Cal Poly SLO (got accepted a week ago) and they need grades to be at a C- or higher. I don’t think my GC can help considering I’m OOS and not many people that go to my school apply to UCs/CSUs. Should I email the Cal Poly admissions office? I feel like I’d get an answer like “we will make that decision when we receive your final transcript”. </p>

<p>Side note: I’m also curious if anyone has ever truly got their admission rescind because of one D and the rest As/Bs from a UC/CSU</p>