Will I be considered as a in-state resident?

Parents Forum
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<p>My family recently moved to Georgia from NC, and I am considering going back to NC to live with my dad. My dad still stays in NC for work and my dad's health has gotten very worse latelty. I realized I need to stay with my dad to help him.
However, my mom and sister will stay here and pay taxes.</p>

<p>I have been wanting to attend Georgia tech. I know it is easier to get into as a in-state resident than a outside resident. Also, much cheaper tution and many scholarship opportunities as such HOPE scholarship, etc that only instate resident can have.</p>

<p>Will I still be considered as a in-state resident if my mom stays and pay taxes in GA?</p>

<p>I am a junior.</p>

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<p>Will you be going to high school in Georgia for both your junior and senior years? Living with your dad? </p>

<p>If so, I would think you would be considered an instate Georgia resident when you apply to college.</p>

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<p>You don’t necessarily need to live in the state one of your parents lives in. For example in cases of divorce a child may be able to claim instate residency while living with the OOS parent. Double check with your Georgia school district- they would know the state rules better than any of us on CC.</p>

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<p>Actually, double check with the Georgia college you wish to attend. All have residency requirements on their websites. </p>

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<p>Here are the Georgia guidelines for in state.
<a href=“http://www.catalog.gatech.edu/financial/general/classification.php”>http://www.catalog.gatech.edu/financial/general/classification.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>A bit confusing. Seems like (under 1b ii )if your mom claims you as a dependent on her taxes you should be good.</p>

<p>Maybe someone else here can look. I would also call GTech and explain and clarify.</p>

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<p>Right…clear as mud. The OP wants to stay in NC with the dad. </p>

<p>To the OP…if you are completing two years of HS in NC, I’m guessing you would have instate status there. NC has tons of affordable and great instate public universities.</p>

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<p>@thumper… did you read 1bii and interpret it differently? Seriously, I know he needs to ask but it looks possible. Or am I missing something? </p>

<p>So he goes and finishes HS in NC for 2 years but he can claim Georgia if his mom claims him on her taxes…?</p>

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<p>Maybe, Sax. Like I said…clear as mud. Very often the acid test is HS graduation place. </p>

<p>Are these parents divorced? Sometimes schools allow kids of divorced parents to have residency even if the kid doesn’t reside there…as long as a parent does reside in that state. It sort of looks like that is the case.</p>

<p>But like I said…clear as mud!</p>

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<p>Thanks Thumper.</p>

<p>North Carolina is worse…basically " we will know it when we see it"</p>

<p><a href=“https://resdetermination.uncc.edu/residency-requirements”>https://resdetermination.uncc.edu/residency-requirements&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>LOL, that’s the crux of the disagreement. </p>

<p>The chapter and verse that sax cites says</p>

<p>"A dependent student shall be classified as “in-state” for tuition purposes if EITHER i) the dependent student’s parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the student has graduated from a Georgia high school OR ii) the dependent student’s parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the parent claimed the student as a dependent on the parent’s most recent federal income tax return. "</p>

<p>So if the dependent student’s parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the parent claimed the student as a dependent on the parent’s most recent federal income tax return.</p>

<p>Basically consider the three propositions
A: Student shall be classified as “in-state” for tuition purposes
B: the dependent student’s parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the student has graduated from a Georgia high school
C: the dependent student’s parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the parent claimed the student as a dependent on the parent’s most recent federal income tax return.</p>

<p>Now reduce to logic expressions: </p>

<p>A is true if B is true or C is true.</p>

<p>Therefore </p>

<p>If C is true then A is true even if B is false. </p>

<p>In order to get in-state tuition C must be true. Get your mom to declare you as a dependent on her income tax return. </p>

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<p>Crystal clear. </p>

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<p>Thanks for breaking that down, Classic Rocker! </p>

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<p>It looks possible that he may be considered in state in both.</p>

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The way I read those statements I infer the parents are not divorced. Does the mom get to elect to file with the OP if they file married living separately?</p>

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<p>I also infer they are married and in addition also not legally separated if that makes any difference. Way out of my league on the tax filing question but good additional point.</p>

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<p>Does the student need to satisfy all three of those requirements CRD? If so, and the student graduates from HS in NC, how will he satisfy letter B of the Georgia residency requirement…if he lives in NC and graduates from a NC HS?</p>

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<p>No. </p>

<p>A is the outcome (in-state tuition). B and C are the conditions to qualify. </p>

<p>The rule as written is A is true IF EITHER (B is true) OR (C is true).</p>

<p>Therefore A can only be false IF BOTH (B is false) AND (C is false)</p>

<p>Since under Sax’s proposal, C would be true, therefore A would be true irrespective of whether B is true. </p>

<p>There are 4 possibilities:
(1) B is true and C is true => A is true
(2) B is true and C is false => A is true
(3) B is false and C is true => A is true
(4) B is false and C is false => A is false. </p>

<p>We’re talking about possibility (3). B (graduate from Ga HS) is false and C (mom claims OP) is true.
Therefore A(instate tuition) is true. </p>

<p>What part are you missing?</p>

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<p>CRD…perhaps your explanation is easy for others to follow, but I’m having trouble with it.</p>

<p>Regardless…the smartest thing to do is contact the colleges. Ask THEM about residency given the OP’s circumstances.</p>

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<p>Here is the GA residency criteria:
"A dependent student shall be classified as “in-state” for tuition purposes if EITHER i) the dependent student’s parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the student has graduated from a Georgia high school OR ii) the dependent student’s parent has established and maintained domicile in the State of Georgia for at least twelve consecutive months immediately preceding the first day of classes for the term and the parent claimed the student as a dependent on the parent’s most recent federal income tax return. "</p>

<p>We know that the OP won’t be graduating from a GA HS so part i doesn’t apply. Part ii states the mother in GA has to claim him as a dependent. That would need to occur to get IS rates. </p>

<p>Thus from CRD: A is true if B is true or C is true.</p>

<p>Therefore</p>

<p>If C is true then A is true even if B is false.</p>

<p>My question is CAN the mother declare him as a dependent using married filing separately? I’ve never used that filing category (knock wood) so I don’t know how it works.</p>

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<p>@thumper1, I mean no disrespect. </p>

<p>The key piece you are missing is the word EITHER. </p>

<p>From Google, the definition of EITHER is
"used before the first of two (or occasionally more) alternatives that are being specified (the other being introduced by “or”).</p>

<p>In- state tuition applies if EITHER …

  • graduates hs in-state<br>
    OR
  • instate parent claims student</p>

<p>If the second condition is satisfied, the first does not need to be satisfied in order to get in-state tuition. </p>

<p>EITHER does not mean BOTH</p>

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<p>I got it now. But you have to admit…it’s not the easiest passage to understand.</p>

<p>The acid test this student needs apparently is his mom’s ability to claim him as a dependent on her income taxes…if she is a resident of Georgia. Right?</p>

<p>Is that possible if she doesn’t contribute the bulk of his support…and will his dad allow this for tax purposes if this student lives with the dad.</p>

<p>Lots of ifs.</p>

<p>But it does seem possible…</p>