<p>Out of curiosity, what's your major?</p>
<p>Want to find out who I am so you can bug me?</p>
<p>right, because there's only one kid per major here.</p>
<p>I was actually wondering what department you lay the brunt of the phrase "the education itself is worthless. I don't see it helping me at all with what I want to do" upon. </p>
<p>Are you a dissatisfied bio major med school applicant?</p>
<p>An angry Gov major Lawyer-to-be?</p>
<p>Disgruntled isn't good enough for you?</p>
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I don't see it helping me at all with what I want to do, however, I do think that it will get me where I want to go. Happy?
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<p>You make not one iota of sense so clearly logic is a subject that you have carefully avoided . . .</p>
<p><em>if</em> dor is actually a student, i am guessing his/her department is econ. quite a few "tools" and "dumb jocks" major in econ here.</p>
<p>(also, oliver, you decided in another thread that dor must go to bowdoin because he/she knew you were a ladd affiliate - but you mentioned in yet another thread that you welcomed people to sleep in ladd's library, so dor could have figured it out from that, and not from actually going here.)</p>
<p>haha Allison if you're referring to my statement, "Ok, you've totally convinced me that you go here. It's not like I have ever posted the fact that I live in Ladd on these forums."</p>
<p>That was totally sarcastic :-p</p>
<p>Is it time to start a witch hunt for people that hate it here? Maybe Oliver will bless me with a response after watching Heroes tonight.</p>
<p>wow...this is pretty intense...but at the same time i see this whole "argument" pretty humorous...i dunno...i will respect people's different opinions about Bowdoin-even though I hold high regard for it's education-but this whole "i'm going to avoid answering anyone's questions and just bash other people" is just plain stupid...dor, why don't you try answering these people's inquiries so that people may actually take you seriously enough to find your opinions valid? people, including myself, who are considering Bowdoin would like to see both sides-but from credible sources...i'm not trying to flame you or anything...i just want to see some SPECIFIC points as to why Bowdoin is not cut up to what it is to be...</p>
<p>Socially, there are many problems with the scene. Having been put in the wrong first year dorm, I can tell you my life was not made much easier after that. Getting paired with an awful roomate first year is not so much a problem, unless the staff is unwilling to do much about. Secondly, you will find that people fall into their proctor groups here, which are formed by putting everyone in groups according to where they live. It really segregates people, especially when the weather gets bad, and when you find that you don't get along with your proctor group, you're pretty much screwed socially. Cliques tend to form according to proctor groups, races, and sports groups, so if you are a minority that doesn't fit in with your proctor group who doesn't play any sports...well I would like wishing you the best of luck upon attending here. Most people are not to keen on openly accepting other people into their little cliques. Academically, I can pick on a lot of points if you wish, but I certainly feel that I have proven myself to be quite proficient in the matters of Bowdoin, unless anyone has some specific questions to ask.</p>
<p>That's a $10,000 response.... speaking of $10,000, I wonder what I would buy if I had that much money lying around...</p>
<p>dor, you should really transfer if it's been that bad (or unlucky) for you. i think i would have been equally upset if i weren't put in the right dorm freshman year. if transferring isn't an option, join groups that you like. i had a lot of friends i met in groups after the first year inertia begins to wear off, some of whom had had a rough time at it in their proctor groups. sometimes the groups are inordinately filled with jocks and rich, white, straight people. not that there's a problem with that, but the group think that happens in those situations is typically unconsciously insensitive, if not blatantly insensitive. dunno, i think there's some hope sophomore year certainly, but i knew a few people who had a tough time recovering from a bad first year. sorry that happened.</p>
<p>It sounds like the usual. Yeah, first-year kinda sucked, but hey let's make Bowdoin work. My first year was terrible. I had more than three sucky roommates. People think that its okay to bash other regions of the US. I refuse to give out too too many details, because I do not want to give away my anonymity. If you don't think that I don't go here, Winthrop sucked. The proctor only called on res-life to help the situation, and now I am sitting here like ***! How did I do 2.5 years of this. You may have been able to join groups, but don't think for a second that your race / socio-economic background did not play a role in it. I am 100% behind dor.</p>
<p>could you help me understand how race/socio-economic background plays a role in people being able to join groups? also, how are minorities and people from a lower socio-economic background disadvantaged by this?</p>
<p>The bottom line is that people are not accepting here. People here are judged on the basis of socioeconomic status here, and considering America "the land of inequality" the more affluent tend to be white. You cannot prove racism or any type of situation just by stating it. These real issues at Bowdoin subtle, and the administration is only willing to do them in a pc way. "Really representative of America"</p>
<p>right you guys are probably big losers who had no friends in high school</p>
<p>what college is representative of america? i'm not sure. i've been to all the ivies, and all the top LACs. none are. i think it's a fiction to think that any elite school will be "representative of america." </p>
<p>hellojane, why are you still at bowdoin? why didn't you transfer? if you got in, you certainly could get a great financial package at any school that is probably more representative of america. i live in nyc and the cuny schools, in my opinion, are excellent, and would likely give you a scholarship to attend...</p>
<p>many elite schools do not guarantee financial aid for transfer students... they tend to get the leftover of what is left from fin aid packages if they are lucky [ are you assuming that I am on fin aid] why does it matter so much that I post an alternative opinion.... what is this forum supposed to be about making some perspective student feel secure about a choice bc somebody online made an "alternative" comment</p>
<p>don't convince hellojane to transfer. she(?) was accepted at Bowdoin for a reason. stay positive</p>
<p>hellojane, i don't think your comment is "alternative" and i honestly would rather have a more realistic portrayal of bowdoin than a series of sugarcoated anecdotes. but you hate it there, so it boggles my mind why you didn't (don't) leave. and, karlrove, admissions offices aren't perfect, just like people choosing colleges aren't perfect. they make mistakes, or sometimes experiences in colleges that are almost ubiquitously enjoyed by others, cause some to feel like they're in hell. bringing together a bunch of 18 year olds is bound to cause problems for some, no matter how "talented" or "intelligent" they are. so there's no reason to stay, gripe, and be miserable. </p>
<p>i was assuming you were on financial aid because that's the only reason i could think of for why you'd stay at bowdoin. i'd rather you not make me out to be the enemy. i had friends who transferred from bowdoin and i was trying to offer support, but if you'd rather just impugn the place online, fine.</p>