<p>^</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Two wrongs don’t make a right</p>
<p>“As I stated earlier, shame on Georgetown for honoring this ridiculous request”</p>
<p>Indeed you did. I missed it when rereading the posts. I apologize.</p>
<p>Fewer than 60% of Georgetown’s student body is Catholic, compared with about 85% Catholic for Notre Dame.
Georgetown and Notre Dame have made some different decisions regarding Catholic identity. For the first time, the president of Georgetown is a layman rather than a Jesuit, and the number of Jesuits on campus has been in decline for years. There is no real effort to make hiring Catholic faculty a priority. Eventually, Georgetown will be about as Catholic as Duke is Methodist.<br>
Notre Dame still has the opportunity to go in a different direction.</p>
<p>I received an email tonight from a group planning on going to South Bend in time for graduation to display pictures of aborted babies around the area. what an unfortunate scene at graduation . I am glad I am not going to be at this graduation</p>
<p>i understand where they are coming from, but this makes their argument weaker. this year’s graduating class did not invite Obama, the administration did, and for these individuals to take their anger out on the graduates is unfair. </p>
<p>this is supposed to be a time of great pride and happiness as they conclude their time at one the best universities in the country, but these protesters are going to ruin it for them. They should find another means of getting the attention of the administration.</p>
<p>Something that occurred to me while reading this thread is that perhaps it would be best to shroud Jesus for this. I have a very difficult time imagining that His holy symbol and Obama’s political platform would jointly provide any type of coherency in this setting - intellectually, spiritually, philosophically or otherwise. It simply does not make sense for him to be serving in this role at this institution. Shrouding Jesus would send a clear message that these 2 different types of messages cannot rationally coexist.</p>
<p>It’s certainly understandable to wish that this would just die for the sake of the 2009 graduating class. In the student newspaper, however, someone made a point that this is much, much bigger than those 2000 seniors.</p>
<p>Epinomis It is like when our parish was on fire and our elderly priest ran past the firefighters into the church to save the Blessed Eucharist.</p>
<p>Obama’s Office of Homeland Security has issued an advisory to all local, state and federal law enforcement agencies warning against pro lifers (among others) as potential domestic terrorists.
There is no common ground with Obama. He and his appointees see those who value life, believe in the 2nd ammendment, and/or oppose gay marriage as dangerous, racist nut jobs. This is whom ND has chosen to honor this year.</p>
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<p>Yes, hkfl, that was my sense of it - an act of protection, respect, acknowlegment of sanctity, and the like. Please shroud Him. I think that many of us would feel a sense of relief should this be done.</p>
<p>Okay…somebody please alert the masses. This is nothing but propaganda trying to alert conservative Catholics that Obama wants to destroy their faith. Did anyone read the article? President Obama was giving a POLICY speech. His speech wasn’t directed toward Georgetown students, faculty, or administration. It was a speech about U.S. economic POLICY. Obama has always tried to be inclusive in his message, and someone who is not Catholic might turn on the TV, see those symbols, feel excluded and not hear an important information. This is really quite a different situation than the president addressing the students of a particular institution. If he were to go to Notre Dame to give the commencement speech and ask for the removal of any symbol of my faith, this
Obama supporter would be first in line to criticize him. I don’t think the Georgetown “incident” is alarming. </p>
<p>Let us not forget that OBAMA IS A CHRISTIAN who has accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. But he is also the president of ALL Americans. Religion should play a limited role in policy, and that is why I think those symbols would have been out of place in his policy speech. </p>
<p>CoffeeAddict: take a valium and calm yourself down. It’s not that disagreeing with Obama makes someone a racist at all. It’s the ways in which people voice that disagreement. It’s the tone of the discourse and how they phrase their dissent. And please, show me SOLID evidence of Obama’s intolerance toward the Catholic faith.If anything, by going to speak in Catholic venues (like Notre Dame) he is actually demonstrating his inclusivity of non-majority groups. BTW, your interpretation of Islam is incorrect: it is Muslim extremists who are terrorists; the vast majority of Muslims are true to their faith and want peace.</p>
<p>“…and someone who is not Catholic might turn on the TV, see those symbols, feel excluded and not hear an important information.” </p>
<p>Or someone who is Catholic could learn of this and be highly offended.</p>
<p>“…Religion should play a limited role in policy, and that is why I think those symbols would have been out of place in his policy speech.” </p>
<p>Maybe Georgetown University should not have used for a policy speech.</p>
<p>Well, I would invite the Catholic to see the other side of the argument.
And maybe you’re right that he should keep his policy speeches to more neutral venues.</p>
<p>Seeing all this ridiculous hyperbole makes me really glad I chose not to attend Notre Dame (and I grew up loving the place). I will never understand why some people think being a “good Christian” (or Catholic, in this case) has to be such a black-and-white issue.</p>
<p>Not everyone is that way Dorian. I think it makes some people feel good to judge others…maybe they feel that by calling others “lesser Christians” they’re somehow closer to God.</p>
<p>Oh, I definitely know that, but that wouldn’t stop it from tainting my outlook to an extent. It just serves to highlight how out-of-place I might have been had I decided to attend.</p>