<p>i'm just a cadet now, but i'll be commisioned as an officer in 3.5 years. so if i'm deployed to Iraq, I'd go, cause that'd be my job.</p>
<p>What's your definition of a "job." </p>
<p>I think most people have not really thought out what a "job" really is and is a job really what they "want" vs a "need."</p>
<p>itstoomuch, wtf?</p>
<p>Umm over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, including women and children have already died.
Many soldiers enlisted cause the recruiters are good at their jobs ( plus lie), they went for the training, not because they thought they were going to have to make the world safe for Haliburton.
Best equipped army in the world? What papers have you been reading?</p>
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U.S. soldiers are scrounging through garbage heaps for armor to affix to their Humvees as they dart around Iraq. Our force in Iraq is minuscule compared to the forces we deployed in World War II currently just 135,000 soldiers, marines and National Guards; the total will rise to 150,000 as the January elections draw near. We have been fighting in Iraq for 21 months now enough time, by World War II standards, to build whole damn fleets of ships and planes and tanks.</p>
<p>But today, in Iraq, we have 19,389 Humvees in which we move our troops around the country. Of these, just 5,910 are fully armored; 9,134 have bolted-on armor; and 4,345 have no armor at all. Which is why, when National Guard Spc. Thomas Wilson asked Donald Rumsfeld in Kuwait last week, "Why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to up-armor our vehicles?" the hall erupted in applause. Blame war movies or the History Channel or even the public schools, but somewhere in the collective consciousness of our troops there is a dim memory of a time when the United States sent its forces into battle actually equipped to meet the enemy.
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<p>People use the term JOB as a way to excuse themselves. This really does irritates me because they also have choices. </p>
<p>A JOB is something you do without choice, to earn money. You do because not to do so means something of penalty: getting fired, no vacation, no breakfast, lunch, dinner, no school. The only two differences between a job and slavery; the spelling and a job you can still quit.</p>
<p>WORK is something you WANT to do, not that you have to do. Leadership is work that people strive for and work at.</p>
<p>DUTY is something else that beyond WORK. You can add the additional words. </p>
<p>When you become an officer, Are you doing it for a JOB, WORK, or DUTY? I hope we are led by people who see it as their Duty, by people who WORK at their Duty. </p>
<p>Gotta run.</p>
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<p>Are you serious? Out of the 6 billion people in the world, I don't think you would find another person who agrees with you. The US military IS the best equipped and most powerful military in the world. End of story.</p>
<p>emerald, I wish you will stop getting you resources from some aspiring journalist scrambling for words to make a buck and get your information from someone who may be the closet thing to first hand experience (me and unccadet). You claim recruiters lie, if that is the case the ones who are not satisfied can drop out of boot camp. You said that people do not go in to save the world, that may be true in a lot of cases (including myself) but I can say for sure people stay in and continue the program for the right reasons.<br>
itstoomuch, what was you reason to question unccadet08 about what was his definition of a job, which you put in quotes? A lot of students here proudly annouce their future career plans, but this was the first random outburst I saw. But I guess that happens when you want to be military officer and everyone looks down at you. You have to understand this cannot be compared to a civilian. According to your definitions; Work and duty, I worked very hard to get into this school and I admit it's hard to keep going at times. Job- there are a lot of things I don't like about military life, like standing watch and inspections. Still I would not trade it for anything in the world. So in this case, it's all three. You all need to see this in a different perspective. unccadet08, if he is an Army cadet, I'm sure he'd be willing to help you with any other questions or misunderstandings you all have.</p>
<p>recruiters do have a reputation for trying to screw you over though.</p>
<p>Ha! Somehow a recruiter got ahold of my Wake Forest e-mail address and e-mailed me twice (mass mailings). It was so unprofessional, it was sad. I wonder how many people would say: yes! I'll turn down continuing in my uni just so I can go join the army! I wonder if they get even get less than 1% of college students to sign up (non-ROTC).</p>
<p>a good friend of my daughters was a Marine recruiter until he got sick of it and volunteered to go to Iraq.</p>
<p>emeraldkity4, where the fu©k do you get your numbers? 100,000? At this point, it's safe to say that the Iraqi "freedom fighters" are killing way more innocents than the US is. So much for the myth that they're fighting to "free" the Iraqi people from the evil occpation force. Would you rather Sadam was still in power? How about the Taliban in Afghanistan?</p>