William & Mary/St. Andrews programme vs. U Notre Dame vs. Davidson....

@bluebayou‌

About 17-18% of Notre Dame undergraduates are pre-med and about 300 students apply to medical school each year. The school states that 80% of those who DECIDE to apply get accepted. It does not mean that 80% of premed majors get accepted.

What LAC has stronger science programs than a research university? What LAC has a global name?

None, as far as I know. That isn’t Davidson-specific, but I would rule out any LAC for the career path that the OP seeks for those reasons.

yeah, I get that crabby.

If you really want numbers, ask ND for the data on allopathic med acceptances, vs osteopathic, vs offshore…

I would totally take the bargain that is W&M in this situation. If it’s a close call on the merits, an option that’s half the price is the way to go. (Unless the parents have the full COA for med school in the bank and no other plans for it.)

If you are around for Day for Admitted Students, talk to the current students accepted into the joint degree program. My perspective is that if going for something like med school, the joint degree program will be very limiting because it will not allow you to take that many other classes outside you major (especially during the stay at St Andrews, more possible at William and Mary). Also, perhaps public health or policy may be what she is more inclined towards? I myself and a current student at W&M that was accepted to the joint degree program and turned it down partially due to the fact I wasn’t 100% sure I wanted to do IR and partially because I couldn’t imagine leaving W&M for two years. If there are any questions about WM, feel free to message me.

Good luck in your decision making process.

^I have heard through the grapevine that ds’s friend who was accepted into the joint program last year is seriously considering changing plans because s/he doesn’t want to leave W&M b/c s/he loves the community there so much.

@Hoggirl‌ That certainly may be true :wink: William and Mary is certainly known for its strong community. Considering the program is so small and selective, I may actually know the person you are referring to since happened to have I befriended many of them during the beginning of the year. Still, I think talking to the current students during the DFAS reception and really delving into looking at what the program is about is important. WM without the joint degree program is a possibility, and there is the option to design your own major if she wants to create a public health focus with a international focus, for instance. Other options could be majoring in bio/globalstudies/public health.

Wait, actually I don’t know why I didn’t think of this earlier. I highly recommend looking into [SOMOS and MANOS](https://www.wm.edu/as/sociology/research/studentresearch/index.php), a community based participatory research group led by Professor Aday that works with the communities to solve public health related problems. He is absolutely AMAZING and was my freshman seminar and Sharpe Scholars adviser last semester. He also won the Jefferson award for teaching last semester. I highly recommend possibly emailing him or just asking about the program. There are also other groups that I have friends in that work internationally, such as the Global Medical Brigades. The thing about being an undergrad at WM is there are so many ways to do research as an undergraduate (and even in your first year). The [Sharpe Community Scholars](http://www.wm.edu/as/charlescenter/scholars/sharpe/) program is something else you might want to look into for community based research (you can shape it to apply it to public health).

In any case, it sounds like if she is not dead set on international relations (the joint degree program is great for that, but will allow limited room for maneuvering to take the pre-med prereqs), to consider the other options she has available. Remember attending WM without the joint degree program is a possibility as well as the other schools on your list. Best wishes.