<p>nothing too serious but i'm just wondering about a future of a school that's emering with a great force. (here, it's Duke University and its engineering school)</p>
<p>since it's such a young school with a great athletic performance (and with very good rankings), there is some skeptics (people around me .. hehe) that it might fall down somewhat as well. (like everything has bubble)</p>
<p>in contrast, harvard, mit, and all other historical schools would, people say, keep their name value (here, we're not talking about education quality) well in future no matter what.</p>
<p>some dukies believe in their school going up up and up, domestically and internationally. others do not think so.</p>
<p>personally i like something new, this emerging feeling.. like i can be a part of this cool thing:D. but other fears that. that bubble will be gone one day or another.</p>
<p>What do you think?? i know it'd hard to be objective when you're already in love with one school (if youare in duke or affliated with duke or similar school, please tell me so :). but i just want to see what others think.</p>
<p>i mean, it IS, we all know, awesome school
thanks.</p>
<p>p.s : just super duper minor thing is that Duke's, in many people's eyes, seen as "southern school". noone calls Cornell's a northern school that much... ahh. headache;;</p>
<p>"p.s : just super duper minor thing is that Duke's, in many people's eyes, seen as "southern school"."</p>
<p>and MAYBE there lies the problem... that it is still considered "regional" rather than national. sure we refer to harvard, yale, and princeton as schools in the east coast, but their college name recognition and prestige for academics has a national flavor to it. duke does too, but for a different reason (basketball). so as long as duke remains "southern," it can not top the national powerhouses academically. </p>
<p>as far as international name recognition goes, duke still has a long way to go, so yes, their school is going "up up and up" but not from as high of a starting point compared to their domestic name recognition.</p>
<p>My impression is that Duke is "leading edge", constantly adapting and changing to our rapidly changing world. HPY MIT though old and established may not be able or willing to change as easily. My opinion.</p>
<p>Yeah, a lot of students aren't interested in Duke because it's in the South, but I've met a lot of people who don't know where it is and assume it's New England-ish ("Duke's an Ivy, right?").</p>
<p>And it's funny when people say (particularly here on CC) that Duke is "only known for basketball". One, cause it's often an arrogant swipe that only reflects the poster's ignorance (not you kfc4u), but two, media sports coverage LOVES to cast Duke as the elitist, blue-blooded Ivy program versus the scrappy, underdog, blue-collar public U's and the millions who watch bball on tv know that Dick Vitale touts Duke's prestige every friggin' game ("Yo gotta love the cameron crazies, perfect sats, lookin' at future leaders of america right there, baaaybeee!!!).</p>
<p>I think Joe average sports fan gets it (good basketball, good academics).</p>
<p>i don't think it's going to go down. whether it ever reaches HYP status is debatable (unlikely I think), but I think Duke has an upward trend. It may peak but I don't think it will level off at that point, not collapse.</p>
<p>incollege, i love Duke, (i'm more leaning to duke) but i still think, general perception (not necessarily same as what employers think) of Duke is a regional university.</p>
<p>i still think that the majority of honors kids do not consider applying to duke if they had to choose a school (or even several) to apply out-of-state to. it isn't on the radar screens of many parents neither. its not so much the quality of duke (because employers know that it is good), but it's just the perception of it that makes it seem more regional than national.</p>
<p>perhaps it is because i come from california that i have this perception. few aspire to apply to duke, and when someone says they're going to duke, we don't know where to place it academically ("its under stanford, but how does it compare to berkeley? is it better than UCLA?). for those who haven't been brainwashed by US News, the perception of duke is murky (where does it really stand against a california college? which california college is comparable?), and even for those who are honors students, the name-recognition of duke is still more because of basketball than academics. </p>
<p>i am not trying to bash duke, but rather make an argument that from my own experience, it doesnt seem like duke holds a national reputation, at least when it comes to academics.</p>
<p>I don't know. Maybe Duke needs to work on getting better name recognition in California, but there are tons of Cali kids here who all turned down Berkeley and UCLA (actually a good number turned down Stanford because they wanted to get away from home) to come to Duke. In a recent survey done by Princeton Review, Duke turned up as one of the top 5 "dream colleges" parents would love to see their kids attend next to Yale, Harvard, Stanford, and MIT and was in the top 10 for kids surveyed as well. This was a national survey, mind you. California is a special case in that the public schools are so amazing there is often little reason to look outside the state for private colleges. However, 8% of Duke is international and the top 10 states represented include New York, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, California, Texas, and Pennsylvania--by no means a "regional" assorment. Likewise, there are many kids here from national elite boarding schools such as Exeter, Andover, Groton, etc. Though Duke is very young and probably has a ways to go in terms of matching its reputation to its value internationally and maybe in some parts of the country, I can tell you that coming from the Northeast I have never met someone who was unfamiliar with Duke and its status as a really competitive school. Thus, I would say Duke is already very national and is increasingly becoming international.</p>
<p>Duke is highly regarded at my California school. Three kids at my school will be attending next yr, one of which turned down Harvard for a scholarship at Duke.</p>