Would Williams like to accept me?

<p>-Native American male from Oklahoma at a top 300 school. I dont know how. School never sends kids to top schools…one to Duke this year but that was a miracle. </p>

<p>-2100 SAT, 32 ACT- MIGHT come up.</p>

<p>-3.7cum GPA(3.5frosh year), about 3.8 from then on. Rank is iffyrobably top 4-8% if not higher</p>

<p>-AP Scores: All 4’s and 5’s, but no AP Calc or AP Physics. Hardest was probably AP Chem </p>

<p>-ONLY TWO YEARS OF A FOREIGN LANGUAGE* Long Story =(</p>

<p>-ONLY MATH THROUGH PRE-CALCULUS. I know that calc is big at Wharton so I am considering a CC class. My counselor will inform adcoms on my application that this was not an option.</p>

<p>-ECs: I have three passions

  1. Tennis-I am a nationally ranked tennis player at a top 10 junior club in the US. This takes up a ton of time, and I play on varsity as well-I have been the only player from our team to make it to state…TONS OF TIME
    2.Volunteering-I have volunteered at nursing homes, the art museum, with the less fortunate and with Cystic Fibrosis. I REALLY love doing this, I did not just do it to fulfill my service requirement to graduate. This is a possibly essay topic, but I do not want it to come off as cheesy. However, I think I can write an essay that will not come across like that… </p>

<li>I am also VERY involved with the school. Stu-Co Chair and officer.
I have been to a few leadership programs and camps that are invite only. I really LOVE the stuco stuff at my school as well. I have taken leadership (stuco) class for 3 years as well.</li>
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<p>-I really only have 3 passions but I hope that shows.</p>

<p>I met a Williams Rep at a college fair last weekend so i’m fresh when it comes to interest. I REALLY liked the lady though so i thought I would look into it.
BTW, does anyone know if williams offers a major or concentration on geology?</p>

<p><a href="http://williams.edu/Geoscience/major.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://williams.edu/Geoscience/major.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You'd be a reasonable candidate.</p>

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BTW, does anyone know if williams offers a major or concentration on geology?

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Williams tends to attract outdoorsy people, including geologists. The geology program at Williams is among the very best LAC programs in the country; you might check out this previous [url=<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=244992%5Dthread%5B/url"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=244992]thread[/url&lt;/a&gt;]. The size of the Williams Geoscience Dept. (in terms of numbers of faculty and majors) is large by LAC standards, undergraduates participate extensively in faculty research, and alumni do very well in terms of job and grad school placement.</p>

<p>nate, I believe you would be a person of interest to Williams. You have quite a few positives: good scores, grades, rank; very URM status; geographic diversity; sports; leadership. Since Williams doesn't interview, you'll need to make sure your background, talents, interests -- in short your personality -- shines through in your application, especially your essays and recommendations.</p>

<p>You may not appreciate how rare a bird a Native American is in Williamstown. You should amplify this part of your life experience.</p>

<p>And tennis -- are you on the level to play at Williams? If yes, contact the coach now.</p>

<p>Another point that I'd expand on is your experience volunteering at your art museum. Williams has a very strong arts community and three worldclass museums on or near campus. The combination of academics + arts + sports + leadership is a powerful draw. URM status is the cherry on top.</p>

<p>Geology is very strong at Williams. Talk about hands on experience -- you're right in the mountains.</p>

<p>You mention Wharton. Although there is a fair amount of overlap between Williams and Penn, the environment and experience are vastly different. Don't just think about where you'd get in: think about where you'd FIT in.</p>

<p>If you are considering geology at Penn, you might want to check out the number of undergraduate majors. Urban universities may have surprisingly few geology majors, even schools that are much larger than Williams. In such cases, grad students may substantially outnumber the undergraduates, and the departmental focus is really on research rather than teaching. For example, the thread referenced above noted that Yale only had 4 undergraduate geology majors in 2004. Williams averages 10 geology majors per year, although it is much smaller.</p>

<p>Sorry about the confusion when mentioning Wharton. I copied and pasted the post because I thought I did a good job on the thread that I posted in the Penn forum. But I honestly did not think about the environment compared to the major (Geology: in the mountains).</p>

<p>I looked up degree data for the two schools at the IPEDS database. Over the past two years, Penn issued a total of 6 bachelor's degrees in geology; Williams issued 21. </p>

<p>Note that the Penn College of Arts and Sciences enrolls about 6,300 undergraduates, while Williams has about 2,100.</p>

<p>Thanks for the specific response corbett. Is williams a top recruited school for investment banking and hedge fund recruiting?</p>

<p>Yes, and they waste little time in coming to Williamstown to meet with students -- just within the past two days, two companies have been on campus (from the Daily Announcements this past week):</p>

<p>"What is Strategy Consulting? 9/14 at 6:30 p.m. Paresky Auditorium (...)
Presented by Callidon/OC&C Strategy Consulting Friday, Sept. 14th, 6:30 PM, Paresky Auditorium Wondering what all the buzz is about jobs in consulting? Hear from The Callidon Group (soon to be OC&C Strategy Consulting!) about careers in this industry. from Linda L Moran, Career Counseling Office" and</p>

<p>"McKinsey & Co. and Case Interview Workshop on Sunday, 9/16
McKinsey & Co. will be here this Sunday night, 8:30 pm, in Griffin 3, for an information session. Representatives from McKinsey & Co will be here this weekend - Sunday, Sept., 16, at 8:30 PM in Griffin 3. Join the OCC for the Case in Point: Case Interview Workshop at 7 PM in Pareskey Auditorium.
MORE: <a href="http://www.williams.edu/messages/show.php?id=3520%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.williams.edu/messages/show.php?id=3520&lt;/a>
from Linda L Moran, Career Counseling Office Message details: (...)
Join the OCC for the Case in Point: Case Interview Workshop at 7 PM in Pareskey Auditorium and then head on over to Griffin 3 to talk with real live McKinsey consultants!"</p>

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Is williams a top recruited school for investment banking and hedge fund recruiting?

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<p>Yes, definitely. Williams is well respected in the financial community and among Business School admissions. It offers a combination of an aggressive career counseling system, personal faculty recommendations, plentiful summer internships and interaction with a well placed alumni network.</p>

<p>Thank you onemoremom for the link and info...</p>

<p>and momrath thank you as well for the info and I will be keeping ALL of this in mind..</p>

<p>It's the IBankers' turn this week: Bear Stearns, "a premier global investment banking, securities trading, and brokerage firm," September 17, 2007 6:00 p.m., Paresky Auditorium; Fidelity Management and Research Company re careers in investment management, September 19, 2007 6:30 p.m., Griffin Hall; and JP Morgan on campus September 20, 2007 6:30 p.m. at Paresky "for undergraduate students seeking full-time or summer positions in Investment Banking."</p>

<p>Haha! After DS had decided to go to Williams after perusing their catalogue I suggested that he major in geology! It seemed to be their strongest department. DS has actually no interest whatsoever in geology so he found this only mildly amusing; he has a lot to put up with with my sometimes juvenile humor. His major is music, a rara avis in Williamstown, which made him interesting to adcoms. (His other option was classics -- he thinks it's exciting to compare translations of the Aeneid -- which also makes him a somewhat rare specimen.) He has no interest in Ibanking. (Oops, sorry, just my ruanaway humor again.)</p>

<p>Seriously to the OP, check out the catalogue (on line -- at least the courses are.) I think you'll be amazed at how extensive and varied the courses are for such a small school.</p>

<p>"His major is music, a rara avis in Williamstown"</p>

<p>Actually, there are nine music majors among this year's seniors (plus ten who are now juniors) -- a respectable number for a college the size of Williams.</p>

<p>BUMP! I am planning to visit Williams soon. What activities are avaliable on campus (Hiking, Biking, Jogging Trails, XC skiing in winter, etc)? How is the party/alchohol/marijuana scene compared to a place like dartmouth?</p>

<p>Hiking - the outing club lets you borrow from its massive store of equipment and lead trips to wherever you want (they'll even pay for gas or the use of a college car, within reason), but my impression is that the hiking/backpacking scene isn't quite as active as at, say, Dartmouth. Some schools will run open backpacking trips every weekend or two for whoever wants to go hiking, whereas here at Williams you usually have to either lead one yourself or know someone else who's leading one, because they're usually not advertised. But the opportunities are all there. </p>

<p>Biking and jogging - there are lots of good routes leading from campus. The cycling and cross-country teams would know more, and they're pretty open to new members. </p>

<p>XC skiing - you can ski on the golf course (right next to campus). There are decent free trails behind Mt. Greylock HS (about a 5min drive from campus), and for $8 you can ski at the Mt. Prospect area (where the Nordic ski team practices), which is about 20mins north into Vermont and really nice.</p>

<p>Party scene - Dartmouth is bigger and has frats, so it's probably a lot more active, but Williams definitely has parties. Statistics say we have a higher binge drinking rate than most other LACs, but again probably less than a bigger school like Dartmouth. Pot is available if you want it, but not very popular relative to alcohol. Other drugs are very rare.</p>

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Statistics say we have a higher binge drinking rate than most other LACs

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This may be true or may be perception, but I've never seen real apples to apples statistics. I think it's one of those statements that gets repeated so much that it becomes fact.</p>

<p>I have no doubt that kids drink at Williams and no doubt that some drink more than is good for them, but I do doubt that the percentages are out of line with most other LACs, medium sized colleges and large universities. (other than all women's schools).</p>