<p>Not to mention the animosity towards young musicians who practice, practice, practice.</p>
<p>PG, I’m a little autistic, sorry.</p>
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<p>You somehow missed the 0% among the regularly admitted, eh? The dropouts are all among the “diamond in the rough” - India’s equivalent of of Affirmative Action - who are provisionally admitted.</p>
<p>Exactly why is that a problem if the rest are passing? Seems a very small price to pay for a very successful, progressive social policy.</p>
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<p>Those are the worst.</p>
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By an extension of that logic, why not give a college degree for free to everyone?"</p>
<p>Reductio ad absurdum, anyone? Slippery slope?</p>
<p>No insecurity here, IP, given that I was a math major at a top 20 university. And did just fine even though I didn’t take calculus til age 16, lol.</p>
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<p>But is it? The rest are typically from middle to upper middle class families, who went to private schools, had all the socio-economic benefits, and got in by using their caste as the calling card. I am all for a progressive social policy based on socio-economic class, but not based on caste.</p>
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<p>That argument can be made to you in reverse.</p>
<p>You have no data to support who the dropouts were from IIT (posters are supposed to believe it just because you claim it is so?), and you have no data to indicate which students didnt make it at the ivys. Maybe some were athletes or minorities from schools that may not have prepared them adequately. Maybe some had a family emergency. Maybe some had health issues. Hopefully the suicide rate here is lower than at ITT. Please stop making this stuff up as you go along for nor purpose than to antagonize posters for sport. </p>
<p>As an aside, I found this statement to be callous and distasteful
It has been tragic when the rates were alarming at schools like Cornell and MIT. I can’t believe such a cold-hearted statement was made by the faculty.</p>
<p>I’m not the one who doesn’t consider people who are sub-750/750 not worthy of a college education. Saying that it’s just fine to be a 600/600 in life, that there should be college opportunities for them too, isn’t really all that radical. What would you possibly do if your son were merely average intelligence?</p>
<p>No one has animosity towards young musicians who practice, practice, practice. We feel sorry for them if their parents push many hours a day of practice on them , a la Amy Chua.</p>
<p>“But is it? The rest are typically from middle to upper middle class families, who went to private schools, had all the socio-economic benefits, and got in by using their caste as the calling card. I am all for a progressive social policy based on socio-economic class, but not based on caste.”</p>
<p>That’s fair enough. (and in a non-caste society, I’d agree with you totally. But I work among rural Dalits, and I see the firsthand effects of discrimination daily. Now, in our hostels, we are seeing our first engineering students - after 20 years - our first pre-vet, and a few other college students. Not ready for IIT. Next generation.) I expect the screams would be every bit as great if there was affirmative action based on income - actually worse, because in that case, the students CERTAINLY wouldn’t have had the necessary preparation.</p>
<p>Sigh. Difficult issue. And I think India has actually handled it very well, considering.</p>
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No one is talking about musical instrument practice in this thread. Why drag that over from another thread (now closed) from days ago other than to antagonize. Inappropriate.</p>
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<p>Why 600-600? Are people who get 500-500 somehow less deserving?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t personalize it, and accept that my son is just average intelligence and as such will have fewer opportunities than people who are of above-average intelligence.</p>
<p>What would you do if your son/daughter was a 400-400?</p>
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<p>I don’t. That is because a huge part of the so-called upper castes are dirt poor as well, as are the Muslims. Remember, India is a rich country with 800M poor people.</p>
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<p>Sigh. The article you quoted stated that they were all SC/ST - the provisional entries who are the beneficiaries of India’s equivalent of Affirmative Action.</p>
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There were 2 different articles linked. They didnt copy/paste correctly. Apologies if that was confusing.
Carry on with the unnecessary sparring. Some of us have to hit the hay.</p>
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<p>Both the articles refer to SC/ST students. Look, I have no desire to spar with you. It serves no purpose. But facts are facts, you know?</p>
<p>I have a flight to Mexico tomorrow morning and need to sign off. Have a nice evening, IP.</p>