<p>Did I understand pebbles right</p>
<p>She thinks that for an international student such as me
admission decision depends on finacial aid
?</p>
<p>From MIT's Web site, figures for the MIT class of '08 applicants: </p>
<p>2833 students applied early action
438 students admitted early
2169 students deferred to regular action
324 deferred applicants admitted during regular action</p>
<p>I'm probably a bit late in saying this, but holy crap, Monday?! Monday! It's mailed out?! The Terror :(</p>
<p>Oh well at least we get to know</p>
<p>Pebbles, I also just read the Columbia thread. It <em>IS</em> depressing...out right rejection. </p>
<p>I had always thought that rejection was better than deferral (slow, painful, eventual rejection), but in retrospect...perhaps not...</p>
<p>Random question, but does anyone know about MIT envelopes? Thick envelopes= acceptance? Or everyone has the same envelope?</p>
<p>Yep, thick envelopes with MIT in orange on the cover = acceptance.</p>
<p>And swetko - need-aware does not mean that admissions DEPENDS on financial aid, but it is taken into consideration. i.e. if two people who are equally qualified apply international, one needs aid, one does not, the one who does not will be accepted first... now as to whether the one who needs aid will be still accepted, it would depend on his/her merits.</p>
<p>There's about a 7.8 percent chance (from the numbers I remember) of being rejected early. You have a better chance--about twice as much--of being accepted early. </p>
<p>But of course, it's more statistics than true "chances"...</p>
<p>Last year it was a thick white envelope, about 8 x 10, with gold MIT letters on the front. (It hung on my son's door for a couple of months, so I saw it a lot).</p>
<p>Wow, guys, I'm so nervous/scared. I don't know how I'm going to get through this weekend.</p>
<p>wow........ I guess we'll have to wait until Tuesday/Wednesday even though there's that very enticing picture of big envelopes on Matt's blog today.</p>
<p>g/l everyone</p>
<p>hope we all get in</p>
<p>I'm very nervous/scared as well. </p>
<p>What scares me though is I just flipped through the EDs of UPenn; there were so many people with really high scores and solid looking ECs but they were deferred, while other people with comparatively lower scores/ECs got in.</p>
<p>Same with Columbia -</p>
<p>must be that they're looking more into personality than numbers.</p>
<p>do you guys really thing it's columbia who's doing unjust thing(you know.. saying this and doing that -_-), or just it just happens to be coincident???</p>
<p>just a side note: it seems that it didn't matter if they had just average, or terriffic stats, most were rejected/defferred regardless</p>
<p>I don't see anything unjust in Columbia's decisions. I personally do believe they are need-blind.</p>
<p>most US colleges are need-blind to legal US residents because the federal government helps pay up a good portion of the money that the student can't afford to pay. for non-US residents, the US gov't won't pay, so a lot of schools require that international applicants be able to pay the full way... =/</p>
<p>How many of you guys and gals took AP Statistics? "Voluntary response data is WORTHLESS" is what one of the better regarded textbook authors writes. We don't know anything AT ALL about Columbia's or Penn's policies in the admissions office from a self-selected group of CC participants who make their personal guesses about why they didn't get admitted in the early round. Bad news for them, and my condolences, but I think people should be confident in applying to their dream schools, ALWAYS have a plan B, and never hesitate to apply for financial aid if they think they might be eligible for it.</p>
<p>tokenadult and pebbles - dead on. :)</p>
<p>How can the admission procees for Internationals be need-aware.
The decisions are mailed mid march and the financial aid application deadline is 15 april. So nobody who needs fin aid will send the documents before mid march. And the admission staff would have no idea what are the financial conditions of the internationals. </p>
<p>So I want to know is it better to send the financial aid application earlier or after the decisions are mailed. Or it depends on the financial situation of your family . Or does at all the admission process is need-aware.</p>
<p>Wow, Swetko, similar thoughts!!</p>
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# re: Singing in Four Part Harmony -- Or What Makes up your EFC. 1/14/2005 10:45 PM CircuitBreaker</p>
<p>Hey Dan,</p>
<p>Do you recommend sending the forms (international student here) after getting accepted? Chances are 1:20. So do you think I should mail everything now? Haha, more like an Early Bird special?</p>
<p>Thanks - I didn't point out that I'm applying to financial aid in my application but something major happened to my Dad's income so I think we have to fill the form now.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<h1>re: Singing in Four Part Harmony -- Or What Makes up your EFC. 1/15/2005 10:57 PM Daniel Barkowitz</h1>
<p>Absolutely, send them now!!! The issue with waiting is that you will most certainly not get an answer in time to make a decision about accepting an offer (if one is offered), so you will have to make a "leap of faith" without knowing what the financial repercussions of that will be.</p>
<p>Absolutely, send it on in.</p>
<h1>re: Singing in Four Part Harmony -- Or What Makes up your EFC. 1/15/2005 11:19 PM CB</h1>
<p>Thanks for your reply, Dan!</p>
<p>One more thing, do you think I should mail the office of admissions? I didn't point out that I'm applying for financial aid in part 1.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<h1>re: Singing in Four Part Harmony -- Or What Makes up your EFC. 1/15/2005 11:42 PM Daniel Barkowitz</h1>
<p>That would be great. The email should go to <a href="mailto:admissions@mit.edu">admissions@mit.edu</a> and you should let them know that you want to change your application to indicate you will be applying for financial aid. It is important that you do that so that we track your application properly and can notify you when you are complete.
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<p>i did not understand the following:</p>
<pre><code> Absolutely, send them now!!! The issue with waiting is that you will most certainly not get an answer in time to make a decision about accepting an offer (if one is offered), so you will have to make a "leap of faith" without knowing what the financial repercussions of that will be.
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<p>I understand that it is recommended to send the applicatin earlier but
how can this improve your chances, or anything.</p>