<p>According to that post, they said that columbia's ACT range is 27-32. I know that a very small percentage of their population sends in the ACT, but come on! Even northwestern has a higher ACT range, and its not NEARLY as hard to get into as columbia. Even and idiot like me got a 30 on the ACT. Is this a mistake, or what?</p>
<p>If you take into consideration the standardized tests of both the College and SEAS, the ACT range becomes 29-33. This range is on par, if not better, than many of Columbia's peer institutions. Regardless, though, looking at the ACT is a pretty poor representation of a school's student body since so few actually send ACT scores in. In any case, scrutinizing standardized test scores at this level of college admissions is splitting hairs, especially when trying to make a distinction between a interquartile range difference of 1 point on the ACT or 10 points on the SAT; it really makes no difference. Either way, rest assured; admissions to universities on the level of what we are discussing, Columbia especially, considers far more than just standardized tests.</p>
<p>i knew very few people at columbia who got in with under a 1500 SAT and weren't either from a foreign country or a recruited athlete. very few. and some of those minorities who got a mere 1400 were actually the smartest people i'd ever met, they were just unused to american standardized tests.</p>
<p>edit: thus, in conclusion, suck it.</p>
<p>....i had a 1350 and i'm not a minority and i know a bunch of people who are not minorities who have sub 1500 SAT scores.....SAT scores aren't everything, its about the total package....its just that the people who usually didnt do so wonderfully on the SAT aren't so vocal about it, especially in an environment like columbia. </p>
<p>As for the ACT range....they might also be counting people who submitted both SAT and ACT and their SATs or SAT IIs made up for a low ACT and they got in, or they were foreign students who submitted toefl. </p>
<p>College admissions has very little to do with pure numbers.....those stats on the collegeboard website have very little relevance.... its absurd how people place so much importance on them. Its very sad how people like california_love find one silly statistic and present it as if it proves that a college sucks or is somehow less selective because of it despite every other indication that contradicts this asertion.</p>
<p>hmm that is 1350/1600 rt...and i think that'd be perfectly reasonable, 670-680 is about their average anyway.</p>
<p>wow shraf when did I say "columbia sucks"?!!! All I said is that it is surprising that columbia has such a low ACT range compared to other universities. Didn't I not acknowledge that Northwestern has a higher range yet is MUCH easier to get into? Seriously, think before you criticize.</p>
<p>The tone of your initial post was not one of "hey, strange fact - ain't it cool?", it was sarcastic and outraged.</p>
<p>Most of the ivys have an average ACT of 31. Columbia SEAS is actually 30-34. Remember...just the average. 25% higher and 25% lower. It's not all about the numbers at ANY of these schools.</p>
<p>is taking the act ONLY just fine for columbia?</p>
<p>yeah i mean i took the SAT but didn't do so hot so i was hoping my ACT would make up for it because i did remarkably better on it, i hope they'll look at my ACT over my SAT since it was higher...</p>
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<p>they will probably look at both but to answer the previous question, yes ACT can be submitted in place of SAT I.</p>
<p>I hear though that the SAT I is preferred. Can someone verify or disprove this?</p>
<p>i dont think that the SAT would be preferred, what would it matter? when i went there all they could say is either is accepted, neither is preferred</p>
<p>yeah, but anecdotally, the SAT is a harder test and if you don't take it you're not being benchmarked against the most competitive of the applicants to top colleges.</p>