Yale 2021 Applicants

@winterkomt Congratulations on your Yale Acceptance. I am happy that you got in. India and China are overrepresented countries. Additionally, when applicants apply for application fee waiver, and you forward fee waiver request to admissions office (and not financial aid office), it is a clear indication that the applicant requires lot of aid. See this article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevecohen/2012/09/29/the-three-biggest-lies-in-college-admission/amp/
Are there any organization that police these colleges who claim to have need blind admissions? We really do not know what goes on behind the doors. Watch this video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ1ajpiy09E

I was accepted!!! I still can’t really believe it, but I’m so happy!

My situation is like yours @ammielove @panic2017, though… Yale gave me the worst financial aid out of literally everywhere I was accepted, which is pretty heartbreaking. Unless it goes down after our appeal, I probably can’t go.

Congratulations to everyone that was accepted!!! I read somewhere that Yale sends admits a free shirt. Is this true or just a rumor???

@Gandhi21 They asked for my t-shirt size when I went to the admitted students website, so maybe!

On the FAQ for Bulldog Days it says that Yale provides financial assistance for travel costs for those who qualify, has anyone received any information saying their stuff will be paid for? Every other school I have gotten offered to pay for my stuff so I was just wondering if I should wait around for Yale to contact me or if they already have contacted those who qualify as if I don’t qualify i want to book flights soon while they are cheapest.

@eyrar99 Thankyou, I would have never known the admit students website was back online.

and I think I remember you from the Bates thread. :slight_smile:

@CallOfDucky I was wondering about the same exact thing, I found an e-mail in that very section which I reached out to. I’ll be sure to let you know once they respond.

@eyrar99 Okay awesome. Hopefully they’ll come in soon.

Accepted! This came as a total surprise and I’m so excited!

@winterkomt I also sent an email to that address this morning but haven’t gotten a response yet. Will also let you know if I hear anything!

@ammielove - I am the parent. Unless your family is drastically different than most, a child just does not know that much about the intricacies of family finances. My kid sure didn’t, brilliant as she may be otherwise. You state all of these fiancial obligations. If they were not adequately reflected in your financial aid documents then the calculation may be off. I know I always cry this in the wilderness but I do not know why parents allow their kids to do their own financial aid documents unless for some reason the student’s income is the lions share of what is going to used to finance their education (which unless you’re a trust fund baby, that is highly unlikely). It’s called the PARENT contribution. And it is based on demonstrated need - not want. Now their version of need may be different from your parents. Join the club!!

Look on the website, but the way you start is call the financial aid office and speak to someone. They are going to be bombarded but be patient, they will at least give you insights. I’m not saying the amount of money they’re asking your parents to pay isn’t a stretch. But, there is a difference between a stretch and undoable. Most of us with kids at Yale could have gone a route that was easier on our pocketbooks. It is a choice we made and one your parents will have to also. If they just can’t swing it or Yale ultimately does not change the amount, you will be happy wherever you land.

If by chance you and your parents go to Bulldog Days, you can talk to financial aid reps then too.

Good luck!!

@Tperry1982 Yeah my parents made me do the whole CSS profile and everything by myself, which was very difficult so i’m quite sure I underestimated our expenses. even when I would ask my parents for help they were very unhelpful. even know they are making me do all the appeal stuff by myself.

@intellectboy my daughter is a tour guide and was told that the official line about international applications is that “international applications are not need blind. They do not qualify for financial aid and because of this, they do not want to accept students that cannot afford to attend” at least that is what they are taught to say.
I know this is not what you want to hear. I’m sorry.

@Memmsmom , sorry, but your daughter should talk to whoever trained her. . @intellectboy

Do not forget that as part of your financial aid calculation, Yale also includes the value of certain family assets netted against certain liabilities, not just your household income. It may be possible that your family balance sheet indicates that there is greater ability to pay. Perhaps your family “net worth” is overstated (certain assets are misclassified, over valued or liabilities/debt are understated). Someone with financial knowledge needs to go over this with you.

@ammielove - are you sure they are willing to pay any amount they may reduce it to? If not, you may be wasting your time. If they are willing to pay, then try to pull together as much information as you can. Do you have copies of bills, tuition payments, medical bills, etc. Has something changed since 2015 which is the tax year you had to submit? Did there income change, did someone lose a job or get laid off? Did someone get sick or start financially caring for a sick parent? You will need as much documentation as you can pull together. Also, call FA and talk to them and see what they suggest you do.

Best of luck.

I know for a fact that internationally students get aid. Thank you @IxnayBob for posting the exact language.

@ammielove That is horrible that your parents won’t help you. Please let us know if there’s anything the people on this site can do to help. Maybe we can find a financial expert for you? I wish you the best of luck

@IxnayBob that is so interesting because I was talking to her today about the comment made by the poster and she said that they are told to say that international is not need blind and that was why. I didn’t look for official posting but that was what she was told to say. I’m glad to see the opposite because that was what I originally thought. But she was the one that corrected me.

@Memmsmom, I think Yale is one of the few need-blind schools that extends it to international applicants. Afaik, the others are MIT, Harvard, Princeton, and Amherst College. Dartmouth did, but dropped it recently.

After I looked it up, I wondered how the financial packages are evaluated for international students. Much as when investing in Emerging Markets and Developing Markets, the accounting standards are different. I’m sure that over the years they have developed expertise in evaluating finances that include 401ks, pensions, 529s, S corp earnings, etc., but I marvel that they can make sense of what are undoubtedly very different situations. How do you compare a family that lives in a country with universal healthcare to one that has to budget for that? 401k versus a sufficient and guaranteed pension? I’m glad that it’s not my job :slight_smile:

As you are, I’m proud that Yale is one of the schools that extends need-blind admissions to international students.