Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student

<p>WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences.</p>

<p>But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago.</p>

<p>In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year.</p>

<p>Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years.</p>

<p>Under Yale's grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade. In addition to Kerry's four D's in his freshman year, he received one D in his sophomore year. He did not fail any courses.</p>

<p>''I always told my Dad that D stood for distinction," Kerry said yesterday in a written response to questions, noting that he has previously acknowledged that he spent a lot of time learning to fly instead of focusing on his studies.</p>

<p>Kerry's weak grades came despite years of education at some of the world's most elite prep schools, ranging from Fessenden School in Massachusetts to St. Paul's School in New Hampshire.</p>

<p>Bush went to Yale from 1964 to 1968; his highest grades were 88s in anthropology, history, and philosophy, according to The New Yorker article. He received one D in his four years, a 69 in astronomy. Bush has said he was a C student.</p>

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<p>Maybe so, but Kerry was a better soldier, a guy of integrity who put his life on the line. They may been the same as students, but certainly not as patriots.</p>

<p>You're a year late buddy.</p>

<p>The correlation between leadership qualities and academic achievement is very low.</p>

<p>It has nothing to do with politics. That's the point. I've voted Republican; I've voted Democrat. I just don't vote for posers.</p>

<p>They were both in the military. It just so happened that Kerry's company got the orders to go to Vietnam and Bush's orders were to stay in the United States. Other than that you know nothing more than a monkey at the San Diego zoo.</p>

<p>My point is that this entire thread is a year late. In all honesty, I didn't like Kerry or Bush, but who really cares outside of possibly some people in Massachusetts.</p>

<p>who cares, all politicians are rich old white guys who have too much money and too many connections.</p>

<p>i'm not surprised at all. we're being ruled by a bunch of idiots.</p>

<p>kerry could have had much higher grades, if he didnt change his courses so often. I wonder if his below average grades are bcoz of his flip-flopping between courses/majors</p>

<p>:p</p>

<p>j/k no flaming</p>

<p>i should be the president of USA</p>

<p>YAYAAYYAYAYAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!! I will legalize prostitution and ban AA!!!</p>

<p>How many times has this article been posted here. Three? Four?</p>

<p>Kerry must have really improved his last three years if he was able to bring up his average after 4 D's freshman year.
My husband dropped out of school after his freshman year with a card full of incompletes. He was busy protesting the Vietnam war, as well as dating me, working, and just about everything except studying.
When he went back, he finished in two years and was offered a full fellowship to grad school at Princeton.
I don't think a bad year says anything about one's intelligence. Grades (even Bush's) don't say much about intelligence. Obviously, neither student was applying himself.</p>