<p>Yale or Penn? Reasons</p>
<p>After being admitted to both last year, I had the same question. Both are great -- especially the Wharton School -- so I would recommend visiting before you apply and applying based on that "gut feeling."</p>
<p>In the end, I chose Penn.</p>
<p>Obviously Yale, what are you crazy!! Yales acceptance rate is 8 percentage points lower than Penn's!! I mean, cmon, Penn is so rediculously easy to get into, with that 18% acceptance rate, they will basically take anyone who gives them the 50 bucks. Besides, noone in the real world has ever even heard of Penn, and those who have think that its a state school, or Penn State. Everyone knows that if you go to Yale you are obviously a top notch student. Both the President and his challenger in the last election did their undergraduate studies there! You seem to have a very easy decision on your hands-Yale is clearly the number one school in the country(Harold Bloom teaches there, so if you want to be a shakesperean actor, there;s no better place), while Penn doesn't even deserve to be in the ivy leagues.</p>
<p>Keynes, you are speaking nonsense.</p>
<p>Penn is extremely difficult to get into and is in the top 5 schools, according to USNews. Many people have heard of Penn. While I do agree people think it isn't an Ivy League, it's still a very good undergraduate school. It has Wharton, after all.</p>
<p>You don't deserve to be in the Ivy Leagues.</p>
<p>Not only did the dems and repubs have two Yale grads, Dean was a Yale grad... among some others.</p>
<p>USNEWS standings matter not. </p>
<p>Penn can't rely on Wharton for its high status. Most kids don't do Wharton--why talk about how good Wharton is if most students are in College? Are we covering for the fact that the College is mediocre and the acceptance rate might be 25%?</p>
<p>Unless you're in Wharton, the obvious choice is Yale. even if you're in Wharton, I'd choose Yale just because the experience would be more intellectual, while wharton is incredibly preprofessional and pretty homogeneous in career goals.</p>
<p>keynes is hopefully being sarcastic, cuz he does go to penn</p>
<p>I would go to Yale unless you are going to major in Business or something that Penn has a much a program in than Yale.</p>
<p>"Are we covering for the fact that the College is mediocre and the acceptance rate might be 25%"</p>
<p>eh, its more like 17% for the college(the nursing and engineering schools both take over 30% gives penn the 20% overall acceptance rate). But still, 17% isn't nearly as good as Yale's acceptance rate. Any college that takes that many people obviously isn't a good school</p>
<p>Zephyr, to think that you came across as such an intelligent person in previous threads!</p>
<p>Penn College's acceptance rate is about 20%. Acceptance rate means very little -- Penn has a lot more seats to fill.</p>
<p>Thanks for the half-compliment. </p>
<p>You're right. I was merely stating that I wish Penn would concentrate on moving the College up into the stratosphere where Wharton is. But it seems in a sense to be relying on Wharton and its preprofessional atmosphere to attract applicants. When I visited Penn, they showed us the new & AMAZING and very high-tech Huntsman building (which impressed me a lot), unfortunately, it was for Wharton. As a College applicant who was admitted, I wish that more money was spent on the College. </p>
<p>It's very rare that an academic program can best Harvard's equivalent, and Wharton does that. </p>
<p>That was my point, Thinkjose. I think it's a relatively "intelligent" one, no?</p>
<p>I tire of people assuming selectivity is always a result of school quality. Penn is a bigger school. Of course it has more room for people and thus the acceptance rate would be higher. If Yale were twice as large, and its acceptance rate jumped up to 15%, what would you think then? Schools like Yale are tiny and will of course be selective. It's hard to say "no" to a school when a lot of its reputation is built on how many people it turns down.</p>
<p>As a student that got accepted into both Yale, Penn College, and other Ivies, I chose Penn (gasp I didn't even apply to Wharton, oh no). However, I probably will eventually try for a doublemajor in both the College and Wharton if my GPA is high enough, because I think it would be a great opportunity.</p>
<p>Yale seemed to have a lot of requirements I didn't want to deal with, and Penn seemed to be good in terms of prestige. While not as prestigous as Yale, I think it's a healthy balance -- Penn being an Ivy League university and yet not bound by this aura of elitism that so many people associate with such schools. Penn seems pretty practical and more able to prep one for life after college. I haven't heard too many complaints about the student body, either. </p>
<p>I'd rather move away from the theoretical and move into something more concrete with room for imaginative expansion, logic, intellect, and creativity all in one package. Sure, you can choose what kind of people you associate with at college, don't misunderstand me there. I just had this impression (which I have also seen on these CC boards) that a lot of people feel like they have to have their "intelligence validated" by attending a prestigous university like Yale, and I think that's a poor way to go about choosing a school. </p>
<p>And to those who call Penn College mediocre, I'm sure there are plenty of people who can easily kick the asses of those from the more selective universities :) <em><-challenge</em></p>
<p>Penn - if you like it more go to Penn
Yale - if you like it more go to Yale</p>
<p>edit: ...assuming you get into both of course!</p>
<p>Simple as that, really :P</p>
<p>Thanks guys for your opinions! I would not be going to Wharton, I'm probably going to be in the medical field. I have visited both and am torn between them. Just wanted to see if you guys brought up any interesting points about one or the other.</p>
<p>zephyr151, you made your point considerably stronger in the second post. Nonetheless, I don't agree that Penn College is "mediocre."</p>
<p>Hamlin, Penn's "pre-med" program is quite strong. You'll have good placement into a top 5 med school, particularly since Penn has its own.</p>
<p>penn and yale both have very strong pre-med programs.</p>
<p>at the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either penn or yale. :)</p>
<p>I got into both this year, and I chose Yale because it had more of the things I wanted in a college.</p>
<p>Having said this, Penn is an amazing school!!! Anybody who claims the opposite simply reveals that s/he doesn't know the school at all!</p>
<p>Personally, I don't know which I would decide. Though Yale is "better" in terms of reputation, Penn is still very good. The decision is ultimately up to you.</p>
<p>They're different in terms of campus/size/location so that might be a deciding factor. But they're both prestigious and have lots to offer academically.</p>