<p>S is compiling his list so we can do the college visits....thanks to this Board, we've got Oberlin, Northwestern, conservatories, universities near conservatories, etc. and his theory teacher (who is also a trumpet player) suggested that Alan Dean at Yale be on his list.
Does he teach undergrads?<br>
Thanks, everyone, I really appreciate it!</p>
<p>Yale's music performance degree is a program for graduate students only. You son cannot get an undergrad performance degree from Yale. If he's looking to take private lessons but not pursue a degree, he could contact Alan Dean via email and ask about whether he takes private students who are not graduate students at Yale.</p>
<p>Here is a link to the Yale undergraduate music degree program.</p>
<p>They do have kind of a strange set up. Someone said it was because of endowments. </p>
<p>But you can go to Yale and get a bachelors degree in music. And we have been told you can study with the professors that teach the Grad program if you are good enough but I have no confirmation of that because we are not looking that deeply into Yale. But they did contact us and have sent us information.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yale.edu/yalemus/undergrad.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/yalemus/undergrad.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks so much for the website...my former stand partner is on the faculty..I'll just call her. If undergrads don't have access to the grad school for lessons, ensembles and other performance opportunities, it may not work...although he does like the undergrad program....I'll also have S contact Dean directly. Good idea! Thanks again!</p>
<p>Thumper,</p>
<p>I am a trumpet performance major getting my auditions ready for graduate schools in the winter. I am very aware of Allan Dean and that he is on the faculty at Yale, but I am unable to find any resources on the internet stating that Yale does in fact offer a graduate performance degree. Where were you able to find this information? It seems they only offer Ph.D's and M.A.'s in history and theory.</p>
<p>John</p>
<p>Your most welcome.</p>
<p>Please post the information they give you directly. </p>
<p>Bachelor of Arts/Master of Music (B.A./M.M.) program offered in conjunction with Yale College.</p>
<p>They say performance majors study with the Yale School of Music in an arrangement between the schools. And that it prepares you to move right into the grad program.</p>
<p>But the wording is forced and makes you think there is a catch somewhere. </p>
<p>I hope you get a good answer that clears things up from the Dean. Good luck.</p>
<p>TRumpet, Yale definitely offers a Masters of Music.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yale.edu/music/degrees.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/music/degrees.html</a></p>
<p>There is also a very competitive BA/MM program:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yale.edu/music/degrees.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/music/degrees.html</a></p>
<p>Above all, heed thumper's advice and ask Dean personally both whether or not he takes undergrads, and whether or not your son would be likely to get into his studio. Otherwise the app is a waste of $75, as even if he does get in and choose to enroll, he runs the risk of being stuck with a grad student as his teacher and no BM program to stimulate his musical juices.</p>
<p>Thanks, everyone! That is great advice. I ALWAYS heed Thumper's advice...my trumpet mom guru:) S will contact Dean. He does need to know in advance if he will have a teacher.</p>
<p>The Bachelor's program at Yale is NOT performance. You can get a BA in Music...but you will be studying music as a course of study, not as a performer. Music history, theory, etc are in that course of study...but NOT performance. Yale School of Music has a very well regarded Masters program with performance included. In fact, all students accepted into that program will attend tuition free due to a huge donation made to the school last winter.</p>
<p>Isn't that what we have been saying?</p>
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<blockquote> <p>I am unable to find any resources on the internet stating that Yale does in fact offer a graduate performance degree.>></p> </blockquote>
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<p>I was responding to THIS post. This one person couldn't seem to find any info about the Yale program.</p>
<p>Thumper,
My S has four days off and will e to try to find details. I may call my old stand partner and ask her what's up as well. I'll post the info when I get it. Thanks again!
SM</p>
<p>Ok, S is emailing on his own, but I did call the school. Thumper is right. The undergrad degree is not in performance. One can play in groups on campus and even get lessons (space permitting), but the music degree will be in general music. All students, not just music majors, can play in the on campus groups. There is no annual recital. If one does well and wants to do a BA/MS, one can apply in their junior year. The MS is a fifth year and it is at the School of Music in performance. It sounds as if the School of Music is entirely separate from the undergraduate school. If S gets any more info. I wil post it.
Thumper, Yale School of Music does offer graduate performance degrees apparently. Or so my source thought.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Thumper, Yale School of Music does offer graduate performance degrees apparently. >></p> </blockquote>
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<p>This is absolutely true and is what I've been saying here!! Yale School of Music is a highly regarded school for music performance ON THE GRADUATE LEVEL. They received a very large bequest last year and all students within that school will attend tuition free. Folks are speaking of this like this is the "graduate school version of Curtis". The graduate program is well established, and has been for quite a long time. Yale also is part of the Yale Summer Music Festival held in Norfolk CT in the summers. This too, is an excellent performance opportunity.</p>
<p>All true thumper1! Yale School of Music is VERY prestigious and is now free. These musicians in the graduate school are the ones that give lessons to the undergraduate music majors.</p>
<p>Has anyone heard information about the difficulty of getting into Yale as a undergraduate music major - do you need to have enormous talent AND be the valedictorian of your school?</p>
<p>ABlestMom...Yale is very difficult to get into and they do not have special considerations for music majors (as opposed to math majors and government majors). Having extraordinary talent probably can't hurt, but it's not the same as applying to music school because it is an academic program. So, bottom line...it is extremely extremely difficult even with talent and val status. But, if your kid wants to go there, he or she should apply anyway!</p>
<p>John (trumpet guy) Dean is great. My understanding is that as a grad student you could take lessons from him and major in performance at the School of Music. Just call over there...they are extremely helpful! Good luck!</p>
<p>Thanks symphonymom ~ that is what I felt instinctively!</p>
<p>I think the trumpet teacher is Alan Dean...and he is terrific. He teaches graduate students in the performance program.</p>
<p>I was an undergrad musician at Yale, and the way things are divided up administratively certainly makes things confusing for an outsider (but no problem once one is actually enrolled in one of the programs). Some of this info is already in previous posts, but I thought would try to clarify some stuff.</p>
<p>The Department of Music is in the Faculty of Arts and Science. It offers an undergraduate music major (requiring performance, theory, and history classes). It also offers graduate degrees (PhD) in musicology, sacred music, etc. </p>
<p>The School of Music is a professional school. It has an admissions process similar to that at any conservatory like Julliard or NEC, which is distinct from Yale College (i.e. undergraduate) or Yale graduate school admissions. </p>
<p>There is 5 year B.A/M.M. program. You get a B.A. in Music from Yale College, and in your 5th year, you lose your Yale College status and become a full time School of Music student -- you move out of the residential colleges, you play in the Yale phiharmonic, etc. </p>
<p>Now, some comments about the undergrad program...</p>
<p>Students who are admitted to Yale College have access to all programs in the Department of Music. This means a full array of performance (private lessons, chamber, voice, etc.), theory, and music history classes. The performances classes are taught by School of Music faculty; the theory and history class are taught by faculty in the Department of Music (i.e. the academic side of music). </p>
<p>Anyone can get private lessons at Yale whether you already have a degree at Julliard or you are starting an instrument for the first time. Depending on your level, lessons are either free or heavily subsidized. Who you get depends on your talent. If you are an excellent musician you will be able to study at no charge with School of Music faculty like Claude Frank, Elizabeth Parisot, Jesse Levin, Ole Akahoshi, Syoko Aki, etc. Most School of Music faculty have several undergraduates each working with them. Less talented undergraduates typically get paired up the School of Music students and have to pay an hourly lesson fee. Unless you are super talented (i.e. read international competition participant) or know the professor from a music fesitival, you will not be able to find out who you can study with until you arrive at Yale (auditions are held typically the first week of classes). </p>
<p>Undergraduates taking lessons for credit with a school of music faculty are required to give a yearly recital. People taking chamber music for credit are required to give a concert at the end of each semester. There is funding availble through the Department of Music and through Yale College to travel to music festivals (my friends in a piano trio got funding to travel to Argentina to study tango!), to put on concerts, etc. There are internal competitions too. The concerto competition winner plays with the Yale Symphony Orchestra and the Friends of Music chamber music competition has a significant prize purse. </p>
<p>Hope this helps and best of luck to all. Let me know if you have other questions.</p>