Yay or nay -- My son's list

<p>He is interested in Entrepreneurship/Marketing and is an AVERAGE sort of student.</p>

<p>In no particular order:
Mizzou
James Madison
Indiana
Miami of Ohio
Elon
Michigan State
Penn State</p>

<p>I am especially interested in the level of academics. Thanks so much.</p>

<p>It really would be better if you told us his stats. Average is a very broad term, especially on CC.</p>

<p>If he’s interested in Entrepreneurship, Babson is probably the best choice.</p>

<p>Your list is great and I like the geographic spread. Elon is a FABULOUS school and those kids get jobs! Trust me, I know. Plus its a gorgeous campus, and a very warm and fuzzy culture there…they do a terrific job of being inclusive, helpful, supportive and make it a great learning experience. Entrepreneurship is big there. </p>

<p>Another school like Elon, down the road about 30 miles is High Point University, which also has a very strong Entrepreneurship major and its President is a nationally recognized person…who is getting a lot of attention.</p>

<p>Here are the top 25 entrepreneurship programs in the country according to Entrepreneur magazine:</p>

<p>1 University of Houston (Safety)
2 Babson College (Reach)
3 Drexel University (Match)
4 University of Dayton (Match)
5 University of Arizona (Safety)
6 Temple University (Match)
7 DePaul University (Match)
8 University of Oklahoma (Match)
9 University of Southern California (Very High Reach)
10 Chapman University (Reach)
11 Ball State University (Safety)
12 Baylor University (Match)
13 University of North Dakota (Safety)
14 Northeastern University (Reach)
15 Syracuse University (Reach)
16 Miami University (Match)n
17 Loyola Marymount University (Match)
18 Washington State University (Match)
19 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (High Reach)
20 University of Alabama–Tuscaloosa (Match)
21 University of Cincinnati (Safety)
22 University of Iowa (Match)
23 Belmont University (Safety)
24 Xavier University (OH) (Match)
25 Suffolk University (Safety)</p>

<p>These are the schools you should be looking at! throw out Missouri, James Madison, Indiana, Elon, Michigan State and Penn State and pick schools on this list!</p>

<p>I’m assuming that by average you mean a B student</p>

<p>Thanks everyone – He is taking SATs for the first time on December 6, so I do not have those scores yet. As for GPA, he has a 3.8 for his first semester of junior year, but it’s a new development for him to be scoring so well. A lax approach to study during his freshman and sophomore years resulted in disappointing grades. I anticipate that after his junior year, we can expect to be floating around a 3.2.</p>

<p>pierre – Thank you so much for the list. There are several schools on it that I had not checked out.</p>

<p>James Madison is an excellent school, and it sounds like your son could attend it if he gets good SAT’s. Unfortunately, only a couple of the schools (if any) would probably accept a 3.2 unless he gets amazing SAT’s and does incredible extra curricular.</p>

<p>only a couple of schools on pierres list**** sorry i forgot that little detail</p>

<p>Be wary of people who trash schools or suggest you delete them. That is unprofessional in my view. </p>

<p>The original list you had is fine. You (and your son) can add or delete whatever schools you wish based on your own subjective standards or qualifications or after visiting campus. And being a Junior, its very early in the process. But a good time to start narrowing the list, considering schools in a broad and diverse manner/location, and so forth. </p>

<p>A lot of people on CC are fixated on “prestige” and wedded to USNWR rankings and other indicia of elitism, which have nothing whatever to do with whether a school is a good fit for you (your son) or if the programs you are considering are well respected etc. Ever person is different and while some would thrive in a highly competitive environment, even if they are in the low avg of their admitted student profile, some would be very unhappy and crumble. Some kids just want to be happy and thrive in a healthy environment, enjoying sports, clubs, dorm life, and all a school has to offer. Schools have unique cultures and that is usually pretty easy to discern after a visit to campus. Either it will turn you on or it will turn you off or leave you feeling nothing at all. And that is highly subjective. My oldest is a sophomore in college. She had friends in high school who were all hyper about this or that school and when she visited, she said, “nope, its not me.” Or she liked a certain school and others didn’t. </p>

<p>We also have a Junior in high school and are looking around currently for her. But its a completely different list of colleges as they are completely different students and people. </p>

<p>I have my biases and schools that really appealed to me, some of which surprised even me. One of those schools was Elon. And it has nothing whatever to do with prestige or avg stats for the admitted class. </p>

<p>My best to you and your son in this exciting process.</p>

<p>I recall reading an article by a well-known business professor several years ago which basically said that trying to learn “entrepreneurship” in a business program is a waste of time. In his view, the parents would be better off giving the child the money from their college fund as seed money for starting a business and learning to sink or swim on their own! While I wouldn’t go quite that far, the basic point still has some validity. Concentrate on a good overall college or university that fits the student personally and don’t worry about business specialty rankings, which are all but worthless at the undergrad level (except for say, accounting, which is now a 5-year program allowing for more specialized courses). Specialize at the MBA level, if you want to go that route.</p>

<p>I go to Xavier right now and our entrepreneurship program is very well respected in the midwest - plus students get an opportunity to actually use their skills. They are given a very small percentage of the budget to go crazy with and see what they can do. We have a student run laundry service, cookie delivery, and movie rental. </p>

<p>Not to trash Elon, but I visited there when I was applying and now have a friend that goes there and I’m not that impressed. It’s a beautiful campus, but it is HEAVY into greek life. From what I understand if you don’t want to go greek, you shouldn’t go there because everything is focused around it. Not the school for me.</p>

<p>Definitely look at Babson.</p>

<p>I could not agree more that studying entrepreneurship is suspicious at best and most probably a waste of time. There are many thing one can study to assist in starting businesses, but I don’t believe entrepreneurial studies is one. It’s no wonder so few schools offer this major.</p>

<p>I’ve assisted countless companies in going public, merging and raising money over 3 decades and never encountered anyone claiming to have been this major.</p>