<p>id like to add that besides tech, state, uga, no public U. in the state has better admission stats than gsu. gsu has higher median sat scores, act scores, entering gpa, lower acceptance rate, ect.</p>
<p>so where's your proof after all that ive given?</p>
<p>is mine still groundless compared to your simple speculation and guessing? probably. those sat scores are deceptive and dont specify whether or not gsu added 200 points to the scores to make themselves seem better.</p>
<p>
[quote]
could i please just ask why you can't back up what you're saying with proof?
[/quote]
</p>
<p>What proof do you need? We have had two separate people that live close to Valdosta admit from first hand experience that the student body is horrible and the academics are far from rigorous. We have given you abysmal SAT rates of below 1000 on the old scale. We have proven to you that not all PHD programs are legitimate(for example there are online PHD programs now) and that getting accreditation is far from difficult(Bob Jones University). Moreover, we have proven that GSU is simply the last resort for any even mediocre student in the state of Georgia(at the point in which you say there are three large public universities ahead of it, that is saying something). </p>
<p>Lastly we have proven from every other post besides your posts that GSU is a school of moral repugnance and simply a walk through to get a degree. You have failed to provide us with any real statistics besides a strange(and misguided) way of looking at an acceptance rate and a token example of a decent department(chemistry). </p>
<p>I will answer the rest of your argument's line by line. </p>
<p>
[quote]
you say everything i say is groundless
[/quote]
It certainly is, you have never answered what everyone else has said on this thread. You repeat things over and over again as if we couldn't read them the first time. </p>
<p>
[quote]
when I can tell you an acceptance rate (look it up on princeton or collegeboard)
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Again, an acceptance rate means absolutely nothing when inferior applicants are applying to the school. Remember, these are all students who are not nearly competitive enough to attend the only two legit public universities in the state. </p>
<p>Let's look at some other stats:
SAT Reasoning Verbal: 510 - 580 87%
SAT Reasoning Math: 510 - 590 87%</p>
<p>Only 25% of their students scored higher than a 580 Verbal and only 25% of their students scored higher than a 590 in Math. Mind you, this doesn't even measure combined scores. Most students are strong in one area and weaker in the other, making the combined score lower. </p>
<p>Percent of students who return for sophomore year: 76%</p>
<p>24% of Freshman leaving after one year tells you something... and it certainly is not a positive thing for the university. </p>
<p>
[quote]
which programs are highly rated (chemistry),
[/quote]
</p>
<p>One token program. I will even give you that their IT department isn't that bad. However, it still doesn't make the school good as a whole, nor does it do anything to improve the student body for undergraduate work. </p>
<p>
[quote]
the fact that it is a research U
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Which University outside of a community college is NOT some type of research university? You act as if this is some type of prestigious label. </p>
<p>
[quote]
designated by the state of georgia (like UGA, tech, mcog, state) and is only a regional for organizational purposes.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Is this something to be proud of? I guess this means every school designated by the state of georgia to be a research university is good? Bull. If anything, this just means the school is eligible for a small amount of state dollars. </p>
<p>
[quote]
let me insult you by saying youre weak minded for following what others tell you and think instead of doing your own research and THEN threatening somebody with insults over something stupid like whether or not gsu is a good school.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>I've done plenty of research on this topic. I also have first hand experience with people that attend/have attended this university. If you don't believe me, just look at all of the other posts in this thread by people that live an hour away from the school and still have the same exact consistent comments. </p>
<p>I'm sorry if this is your dream school, everyone is entitled to their opinion; but you did come on CC and ask.</p>
<p>I live fairly close to Statesboro.</p>
<p>Georgia Southern is not as good as either UGA or Tech. That's obvious.</p>
<p>It is, however, very, very inexpensive tuition-wise for both in-staters and out-of-staters.</p>
<p>They are interested in "buying" students from UGA, and they will offer merit-based aid (a full ride, more or less) to such students.</p>
<p>Is it a "last resort"? I don't know whether such a remark insults UGA or Georgia Southern.</p>
<p>UGA is selective enough to the point where not everyone who applies can get in. Georgia Southern is not so bad that people are reluctant to attend.</p>
<p>"also Oberlin has like an acceptance rate of 47%.."</p>
<p>For the record, Oberlin's acceptance rate is 34%.</p>
<p>I know GA Southern offers enticing scholarships(full rides) to certain students who may or may not be able to receive those scholarships elsewhere but I do not think it is working very well. HOPE is what really hurts this practice, as most students can afford the living expenses, just not the tuition of UGA or Tech. Also, correct me if im wrong, but I don't believe the OOS applicant pool is really that extensive.</p>
<p>ryan2288,</p>
<p>Given that several of my friends (I can immediately think of three) were accepted to UGA and still chose Georgia Southern because of scholarships, the recruitment is working quite well.</p>
<p>I disagree with your second point, as well. HOPE will cover the tuition, some fees, and one new book. Housing is not covered, and I know one student who chose not to attend Georgia Tech because of housing costs.</p>
<p>Your last point is correct. Georgia Southern is composed of mostly Georgians. Unlike UGA, however, the out-of-state tuition fees are merely twice the in-state fees, which already are not expensive.</p>
<p>my dream school? lol ive been accepted at UGA, UNC, and Mercer.</p>
<p>but what i dont like is having been to the school and having been quite impressed with the classes ive sat in on and with the people that go, while most others at my school only talk about the rumors they've heard. </p>
<p>what proof do you have that the school sucks? why is it so easy? could you please tell me? pretty please? (please?)</p>
<p>and by research U. i mean a designated research U assigned by the university system of georgia
(5 schools in ga have that, not all of them)</p>
<p>and yah duh all U's do research</p>
<p>but you cant sit there and tell me that columbus state, kennesaw, and valdosta are better schools. you cant compare GSU with uga and tech and im not trying to say you can. Im trying to say that if I had got rejected from state, uga, and tech, gsu would be the best alternative.</p>
<p>I live in Atlanta, and I'm planning on going to Georgia Southern. My SAT verbal is 540 and SAT math is 680, and my (weighted) GPA is a 4.1. Could I get into a better school than Southern? Yes, but the atmosphere is wonderful: Statesboro is so close to the beach, and pretty remote, I might add.</p>
<p>I will admit that their academics are not very rigorous, but their programs are very unique. They have a Bachelor's in Linguistics (only 3 public universities in Georgia offer it), a Bachelor's in Hotel & Restaurant Management (only 2 public universities in Georgia offer it), and a Bachelor's in General Studies for which you choose 3 concentrations rather than 1 major (GA Southern is the only public university in Georgia to offer it, despite what CollegeBoard says. I have personally looked through every public Georgia college catalog and not found anything like Southern's program).</p>
<p>Basically, if you aren't very intelligent but have ambition, go to GA Southern. If you are interested in its unique program offerings, go to GA Southern. Otherwise, go to another 4-year institution where the standards are higher and the location is more convenient.</p>
<p>i am headed to UGA this fall, but southern was also one of my options. Because i didnt apply early to UGA, and southern offered me INSANE amounts of money to go there, i was really considering it.</p>
<p>my SAT was a 1350, and my weighted GPA was a 4.1... southern asked me to apply to the honors college, accepted me, and called my house almost every other day to confirm that i would be attending the honors college orientation, which was in early april. ( i believe. but i never ended up going, because i was accepted into uga early action.)</p>
<p>before i found out that i was accepted to UGA, i was really excited about going to Southern... although, MANY many people told me not to go. they said that there was NOTHING to do there accept party, drink, have sex.. etc. i figured it was a rumor, until i talked to students that actually attended gsu for there freshman year.</p>
<p>their freshmen drop out rate is not only because of fail outs, but also because of transfer who can no longer stand the campus and students.</p>
<p>if UGA or tech is not an option, i would definately recommend georgia state, or even kennesaw state for your first year... uga's transfer criteria is much easier than their regular admission process...</p>
<p>There are tons of students at UGA that barely had a 3.0 and if even a 1000 on the SAT, so i don't think that requirement real means too much about the schools academics. No, i don't think u should compare UGA to southern but it is a decent school. Hell UGA is a party school, thats y most of the people come here.</p>
<p>I'm so excited about going to Georgia Southern. It's gunna be fun. =]</p>
<p>How do you get GA Southern to give you a full ride? I've heard of a lot of people who were offered...</p>
<p>^^^ heck I wanna know ^^^</p>
<p>I no longer live close to Statesboro and what’s more, things might have changed since 2006-2007. If they haven’t, though, then the way to get Southern to give you a full ride is to have a high SAT score. That alone should be sufficient; Southern is a non-selective school, so having a high SAT score counts for quite a bit.</p>
<p>well I got a 1750 composite. the break down being 600critical readng, 580 math and 670 critical reading. I’m retaking in january. But I can’t find a current opinion, is GSU a good school? I’m already accepted…but then I hear all of this about STDs and such…has me ready to back out.</p>
<p>I had heard about the STDs back in high school, too. I don’t know if it’s true, but even if it is, it shouldn’t be too relevant as long as condoms are properly used.</p>
<p>As for the quality of the school, it is what you make out of it. When I volunteered at Emory for the State Science Olympiad last semester, I met a PhD student who did his undergraduate work at Southern. I’m guessing he’s got to be one of the best students Southern has ever produced and thus atypical, but still…</p>
<p>In my opinion, if you can get your SAT score above 2100 with balanced subscores, your chances of getting a full ride ought to be substantial. I repeat that things may have changed since my high school days.</p>
<p>Okay, this is why I wish I was a mod or something for this forum because what the heck is a Southern vs. State argument doing in a UGA forum…anyways…</p>
<p>From an outsider who knows little about schools in this state to begin with, my impression of Southern is that it’s not the best academically, and yes, State seems better in my opinion. I rank State with GCSU and Southern with Valdosta. But that’s just me…</p>
<p>Oh, and just to say…for a future employer, it doesn’t matter if one school is statistically better than another…it probably just matters what their opinion of the school is even if it’s not supported by “facts”</p>