<p>GAdaughter was hoping for Echols but didn't get it. Got in at H and Y though. Those of you with Echols this year should be awfully proud.</p>
<p>Congratulations to your daughter! Maybe UVA realized your daughter was not likely to attend.</p>
<p>gadad, can you give us more details? I don't really follow the Ivy admissions, have they come out already? Is this a "Tuft's Syndrome" scenario?</p>
<p>Oh yes, and mega-congratulations!!! I applied to both Harvard and Yale, but didn't get into either last year. I did get into Cornell, but it's too far from my southern homeland.
So, the big question>>Where is she going? The world is her oyster!</p>
<p>H and Y are worth so much more than the Echols designation. Don't kid yrself.</p>
<p>I don't think there was any room for Echols to be "Tuftsy." From the posts I saw on this board, everyone w/ Echols seemed to be 2300 or higher in SATs.</p>
<p>I agree with cav. H and Y are above the Echols status, IMO. Echols has some perks, but it does not rival with the H and the Y.
I never visited the H campus, but I did visit Y and bought a beautiful, high class heavy knit sweatshirt while still awaiting my admission decision......dumb thing to do>>>of course didn't get in, and then was stuck with this expensive Y shirt. Ugh. I'd offer it to your D, but I got rid of it so fast, like a bad habit.
Your "Tuftsy" statement is true, wow, what a competitive year this has been all around. Congrats to your D on H and Y, and to all the Echols scholars who have incredible stats and options, no doubt.
UVA is Grand! Keep it on the list!</p>
<p>PS: As an aside, I'm shocked by the superior stats of those who have been rejected or WL at UVA. It's outrageous, but I predict the WL will be vital to UVA filling its First Year class of 2008. Only time will tell.</p>
<p>LOL! I finally get the acronym - I've seen all these references to waiting on WL, and I thought people meant that Washington & Lee was late getting decisions out.</p>
<p>Hah! You've been around these CC sites long enough to have figured this out before now ;) ! I think that's funny!<br>
WL=Waitlisted</p>
<p>Congratulations to your daughter!</p>
<p>During Echols review, we often look for a clear passion for an academic area or "love of learning" in essays, recs, and activities (on top of stellar academics). Of course, there are wonderful students who don't get flagged for Echols during our review and those students can apply to be in the program after their first semester. I hope your daughter doesn't think Echols "makes or breaks" the UVa experience, though. </p>
<p>By the way, UVa does not practice yield protection.</p>
<p>yea echols has its perks, and its enough for me to turn down Stanford
call me crazy... but i don't regret it</p>
<p>urmsghere, that's great. Echols status is outrageous (I wish I were one), and congratulations! Stanford is no small feat. You'll love UVA. Welcome.</p>
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<p>And you shouldn't. Waste all of your money and your soul at Standford during grad school. And, please, Please, PLEASE abuse the heck out of your Echols status here at UVA. Like powderpuff said, welcome! :)</p>
<p>Echols status is pretty worthless. There really are many, many reasons to come to UVA, but I wouldn't list the Echols designation among them. Really. Gadad, if your daughter is still interested in UVA, she should base her interest in UVA relative to her interest in H and Y, and the costs involved. </p>
<p>In my opinion, Stanford is one of the 3-5 schools that one should reasonably consider paying full price for over UVA instate, but even then, it should be a difficult choice. Attending UVA, you won't lose out on a ton of the academics or job opportunities, and you'll save a ton of money and have a great time. If you've already decided on UVA, then congrats.</p>
<p>??"Worthless"?? Oh, that breaks my heart, really. Aren't you an Echols Scholar, Cav? If you don't want your status of Echols, then give it to me. I know that's not possible, but I'd never say "worthless"-ever.</p>
<p>Yes, I'm an Echols Scholar, powderpuff. What's valuable about the program? There's no money involved. You get stuck in new dorms. Priority registration has little value. It's really just a title. Big deal. After a few semesters in college you really come to appreciate the substantive and truly valuable aspects of an undergraduate education. UVA offers a great many, even for a top school, but I wouldn't count the Echols program among them. I'd give you the Echols title for a Chipotle burrito if it were transferrable ;) .</p>
<p>I'm the other way around... no from Harvard, no from Yale, yes Echols from UVA. And yes from Princeton :)</p>
<p>That's a deal Cav!
I'm asking this with all sincerity, don't you think that having the Echols title will look impressive when you apply to law schools? And, perhaps, sometime in your life, when looking for jobs it might have value in terms of connections? I would personally love to have priority registration, but I'm a first year and I'm sure you can see why I would value that at this time of my student career at UVA. Does the Echols program foster any sense of comradery? --I would think so, since you all live together the first year. Lastly, it's an honor, I know that might be a little korny, but I think it matters.</p>
<p>Regrettably the Echols Scholars Program cannot offer financial scholarships to incoming students. We offer several scholarships to enrolled students but the Program is intended to offer academic, rather than financial, privileges. The University's Jefferson Scholars Foundation does offer merit scholarships to incoming students but has a separate selection process. Information on the Jefferson Scholars program can be found at Jefferson</a> Scholars Foundation. GAdad the offers from HY might be better</p>
<p>powderpuff: Law schools don't care. Priority registration is worthless outside of a few courses. Yea, it makes life a little easier for some politics and econ majors, but whatever. I could live without having taken Experimental Econ or Antitrust Econ (although I might take them anyway). There's no sense of comradery outside of what other UVA students feel in their dorms, clubs and other more meaningful organizations. Yea, you might meet a few more future college professors, heart surgeons and hedge fund managers in Echols dorms, but plenty of those people are in every other living area. Yes, Echols Scholars might be a bit smarter and more focused than than the average UVA student, but at the end of the day, performance matters, plain and simple. The honor is more of a commendation for work done in high school. Without doing reasonably well at UVA, it's worthless. I've seen glorious success and epic failure at UVA, but it's all been a product of my own effort; none of it has been influenced by the Echols program. I'd love to see a more vibrant, meaningful scholars program (hint: $$$$$$$$$$$$$), but the BOV has other ideas. I don't want to get this thread too off-topic, so if you have any more questions, feel free to IM me.</p>
<p>I'm not trying to bash the Echols program. Rather, I believe that UVA's myriad other qualities (which are frequently discussed) handily outshine anything the Echols program offers.</p>