Yet Another One (Chance Me)

I know that these are all over the place, but I just want to ease my mind a little bit or brace myself.

UW GPA: 3.96
W GPA: 4.2
SAT: 1340/1600
Honors: 10 classes
AP: 7 classes

I applied for the Smeal College of Business, but I did not select the summer session. I know if I get rejected from Smeal, which is very competitive, I know I can call back and ask to be reconsidered to DUS, but I don’t know what the success rate for that is. I was hoping for some feedback. Thank you! :slight_smile:

I think you will be accepted directly to Smeal. It’s usually hard to know for sure with Smeal, but I think you should be alright with those scores. And if you do get rejected and they reconsider you for DUS, you will 100% get in.

Thank you! That makes me feel a lot better!

I will say that while you should get in, I’d call and add summer session to your application. There are plenty of Smeal applicants with a 4.0 + that didn’t get in because there are SO many applicants with the same stats. Several on this board with 4.0 did start in the summer. You can ask to be reconsidered for DUS if you are denied, but that is also a crap shoot because they don’t let everyone do that. My daughter started summer 2 years ago and loved it.

Your stats are very good, and you are definitely in the ballpark for Smeal- but be aware that only 11% of Smeal applicants got in direct admit last year. And also, GPA is very hard to chance because of how differently schools weight their classes. 2 years ago there was a girl who was denied with a 4.0 and high stats and she was stunned. It turned out that her school weighted classes very heavily - so her high GPA was not equivalent to other’s high GPA. GPA’s are very dependent on grading scale and weighting difficulty which vary at every school. Penn State will take all of that into consideration.

None of this is to scare you - only to let you plan accordingly. Only you know how your school weights your grades. If they have an easier grading scale and easier weighting scale, I’d make sure to at least have summer session on there.

@jhpsu I think that’s what a lot of people don’t understand. Our local public school district weighs out of a 6.0 GPA. So if a student gets a gpa of 4.0 at that school, it’s actually a terrible gpa. I do believe that Penn State only considers unweighted gpa because of this. At my sons private school, the highest gpa attainable, and that’s if you have perfect scores in all of your AP classes, is a 4.3. So it’s incredibly different than our public school. It really is hard to chance students because of this.

@japsmom Exactly. At my kid’s public school, an A is a 94% and higher. At the school in the neighboring district, it’s 90%. The highest my kids can get even with AP classes would be a 4.2. My daughter took many honors classes and did well in them and it only raised her GPA by .05. The chance questions are almost impossible to chance because we don’t know all of that.