Yo, what AP?

<p>Just wondering how a 4 on an AP exam rolls with a place like Yale both on the admissions front as well as for factoring into eligibility to skip intro classes (some schools only accept 5s)..</p>

<p>Do schools (including, but not limited to Yale) generally put a lot of weight on one's AP scores anyways? Or are they more of one of those tiny details that they look at, but that doesn't hugely determine whether or not you'll get in?</p>

<p>Thanks guys, it's been real.</p>

<p>Schools of a lower ranking don’t generally care about AP scores. However, top colleges will really take anything they can get to best get to know their applicants.</p>

<p>As for advanced standing, Yale allows students to skip out of intro classes, but does not allow students to graduate early. (You can skip intro biology, for example, but that doesn’t mean you’ll need less than the 30-something credits necessary for graduation.)</p>

<p>Yale’s AP credit policy: [Table</a> of Acceleration Credit | Acceleration | Academic Information | Yale College | Class of 2013](<a href=“Yale College”>Yale College)</p>

<p>For future reference, googling “[college name] AP credit policy” is very helpful. ;)</p>

<p>Oh, I appreciate that! I knew that Yale wouldn’t let you graduate early (and really, if you’re fortunate enough to be one of the lucky 7.5% who make it in, why on earth would you want to leave faster than the already fast four years!?), but I wasn’t sure if they let you skip intro classes.
That’s good to know.
But in any case, a 4 isn’t something that’s look down on by a place like Yale, is it? (my 4 is in APUSH if the context makes any difference). Obviously there’s nothing that I can do about it now, but I just like to know how I appear to the adcoms going into this whole mess ;)</p>

<p>Well, unless you’ve already submitted official score reports, your admissions officers will have to take your self-reported scores with a grain of salt. Somehow, I get the feeling that you have a few 5s. If anything, the fact that you admitted to getting a 4 (oh, the shame) will be looked upon positively.</p>

<p>You can also just not include them. I didn’t include any of my AP scores and still got admitted. But you should probably be consistent, don’t list some and not others.</p>

<p>Nope, I only have that one AP test to speak of so far; my school only lets juniors take APUSH and all other APs are offered beginning with senior year. </p>

<p>I didn’t know you could do score choice with APs! Learn somethin new every day.</p>

<p>^There’s no “score choice” with APs. You are just not required to submit official AP score reports. And you don’t even have to report it on the CommonApp if you don’t want to.</p>

<p>My impression is that good AP scores can’t hurt. So-so scores are not a disadvantage or an advantage and bad scores definitely won’t help (and it’ll help the college assess how difficult your high school curriculum is).</p>

<p>^ You can do “score choice” with APs. It just isn’t called score choice, and it’s a bit more complicated.</p>

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<p>[AP</a> Scores - AP Grades & Reporting Services](<a href=“College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools”>View Your AP Scores – AP Students | College Board)</p>

<p>The thing is, the only situation in which you would ever be required to submit an official score report is if you were admitted and want to skip an intro course.</p>

<p>^Ooooh ok. Oops…sorry about that! I had noo idea that was available. But boy, it’s sure complicated.</p>

<p>And 4 is a good grade. It definitely shows you grasped the material quite well. And at least it won’t hurt you in the admissions process.
As for skipping intro classes…it all depends on what class it is. And it’s different for each college. No idea what is for APUSH at Yale. I bet you can find it on their website though!</p>

<p>There’s no credit for APUSH at Yale, in fact there is no credit for ALOT of stuff at Yale.</p>

<p>Well, Yale’s just thug lyfe like that, I guess. I would hope, at the very least, they have credit for psych so you don’t have to take that big intro to psych lecture…do you know if they do?</p>

<p>it’s.been.real:
You are free to skip any class you want if you think you can handle it (and, if permission of the professor is required to take the class, as in most seminars, if you can convince the professor you can handle it). Doesn’t matter what Yale says about AP Psych credit - if you want to start taking Psych classes at a higher level than the intro class, just show up at the class you want to take. That said, if it turns out you aren’t actually prepared for the higher level, you’re the one who will suffer.</p>

<p>The only exceptions to this are math, foreign languages, and chemistry, all of which have placement tests.</p>

<p>do you go to Yale?</p>

<p>Yes, I go to Yale.</p>

<p>Okay cool, so then I CAN ask you this :)</p>

<p>Do you feel like your AP scores were a good indication of whether or not to skip the intro classes at Yale? (if you did this at all). I know it will be different at every college, but in general I’m hesitant to trust the college board in any form! haha</p>

<p>I’m not looking closely at the screen names for the posters on this thread, but one of the posters (and maybe more than one) erroneously states that Yale does not give credit for APs or allow early graduation. This is wrong and the answers are available at the Yale website.</p>

<p>Yale does give credits for quite a few APs, although not the history ones, and you have to be careful what classes you take or you can lose the credit. My son will enter this fall with 9 credits, a full year at Yale. He took 8 AP exams, including the US and Euro tests that do not earn credit at Yale, but some of his tests count for 2 credits. I came across this thread while trying to figure out how the test credits affect the distribution requirements, which cover both skills and fields.</p>

<p>If any Yalies know how the foreign language APs fit into the Humanities requirement, that’s what I’m trying to help my son figure out.</p>

<p>Wisedad is correct, but – and this is a big but – you can only get credit for AP courses (acceleration credit) if you graduate early, i.e., in fewer than eight semesters. </p>

<p>From the Yale website, here is a summary of the basic rules:</p>

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<p>[Summary</a> of Some Important Acceleration Rules | Acceleration | Academic Information | Yale College | Class of 2013](<a href=“Yale College”>Yale College)</p>

<p>Yes, the acceleration rules are complex, but if you read this chart carefully:</p>

<p>[Foreign</a> Language Requirement | Academic Requirements | Academics | Yale College](<a href=“Yale College”>Yale College)</p>

<p>you can see that the AP credit is valuable, at least as far as the foreign language distribution requirement is concerned. A 4 or 5 means you need only take 1 credit of foreign language in order to meet Yale’s ordinary distribution requirement of 3 credits.</p>

<p>And yes, the idea is to be able to take at least a semester off if you want or graduate early, not take a slacker schedule for eight semesters – either way, you save some tuition dough and gain some flexibilty to do things outside New Haven. (I can completely understand that Yale does not want a college full of kids taking light schedules for four years.)</p>

<p>So my son’s 4s on French and Latin mean only 1 more foreign language credit needed. His Calc BC test appears to qualify for the 2 credits of QR. The AP Chem qualifies for 1 credit of NS. The AP English test (either) will take care of the 2 WR credits needed. I’m trying to figure out if either language AP can qualify for a Humanities credit. If not, he’s left needing 1 more NS, 2 Soc Sci and 2 Humanities. </p>

<p>As for whether APs tests are worth taking for Yale, they do help get some distribution requirements out of the way and can possibly enable a semester off if my son decides he wants it for study abroad or a job or internship.</p>

<p>Wisedad:
I was just reading through the freshman handbook about foreign language requirements. I’m no expert-daughter is an incoming freshman, but here is what I learned. </p>

<p>If a student got a 5 on an AP language, they are placed at the L5 level, and only need to do one more semester of that foreign language to fulfill the foreign language requirement. If they got a 4 or lower, they take the placement exam to determine their level. That will in turn determine how many semesters of the language they need.</p>

<p>You asked about the Humanities requirement. A class can count only for one distribution requirement. If there are foreign language classes that are coded both for foreign language and for Hum, I would think that a student could use those for humanities if they have already finished the foreign language requirement.</p>

<p>I’m not sure how clear this is, I’m sorry! The freshman handbook is on-line, and this section is on pages 20-25 of the pdf.</p>