<p>"But they're probably tanner and wear less clothes than girls up in NY."</p>
<p>yup.</p>
<p>A girl can be pretty and smart. My older daughter turns heads, especially when she is oversea. I have met many of her friends from Cornell, they all seem fairly attractive to me. The only thing is they are not bimbos, which may not be attractive to some men. It takes a very confident man to go out with an intelligent woman.</p>
<p>^Girls that are pretty/smart are, most unfortunately in short supply.</p>
<p>The second quality is much more important in the long run.</p>
<p>Then again....the first isn't particularly common either.</p>
<p><em>large sigh</em></p>
<p>i find that while they dont dress the part of your stereotypical bimbo (as IC girls might) some snobby girls at cornell think they are the $hit but are definitely not hot...</p>
<p>a satire representation of this would be that snobby emily on ICTV's Ivy show</p>
<p>Careful, now. I know a lot of IC girls and I can't think of one that is even remotely like a stereotypical bimbo.</p>
<p>No one's saying really hot girls can't also be very smart, but the probability is lower. chances are if you see a really hot girl walkin down the street, she's not also extremely smart or talented, just like a really good athlete might not also be a talented musician...sorry if that was a bad analogy. </p>
<p>is Ithaca College not a good school or something? I only know 1 person there, but she's not a bimbo at all.
maybe it depends what your idea of hot is...these girls would probably be all the rage in texas <a href="http://www.thepassrush.com/images/florida_state_cheerleaders.jpg%5B/url%5Dbut">http://www.thepassrush.com/images/florida_state_cheerleaders.jpgbut</a> here a lot of people might think they look trashy and skanky.</p>
<p>those girls are good looking, but Texas. That's where it's at.</p>
<p>oh Texas........</p>
<p>texas turns me off politically...california has the better mix :D</p>
<p>California politics suck, except for Arnold. I hate texas too. Both are fairly extreme.</p>
<p>^ I like Arnold too, or used to a lot (seems like a lot of californians hate him). Texas...just scares me. I'd be a little anxious if I was heading there, although I'm sure the major cities are fine. I think I'm too arab-looking to visit a small town in Texas though, not that I'd want to lol. </p>
<p>Chace Crawford is a hot a Texas guy. but northeastern men are better...east coast all the way.</p>
<p>What scares you about Texas? I'm really just curious, not offended or anything. lol.</p>
<p>"I think I'm too arab-looking to visit a small town in Texas though"</p>
<p>That is quite literally prejudice.</p>
<p>^ Yes, it is. But everyone is a bit prejudiced based on personal experiences. </p>
<p>ZFanatic, i don't want to offend you...i'm sure texas is a nice place to live. i've just had relatives who have had bad experiences there (they used to live there) and that makes me a little nervous based on some of the things they've experienced. Still...can't judge an entire state by one stupid town.</p>
<p>i lived in texas for 5 years... it really is like what you may be thinking. a black man minding his own business walking in the streets still turns heads and raises eyebrows. the nice suburban towns with nice houses are owned by nice baptist families who shun the new asian immigrant neighbor. and when the wind blows you still get that nice whiff of manure. i hate stereotypes, but in texas' case (and perhaps georgia and the rest of the deep south states), all holds true.</p>
<p>^that's too bad...I was kind of hoping someone from Texas would tell me I was way off and totally wrong, but apparently it's true?</p>
<p>Yeah my aunt's family (brown and muslim) lived there 2000-2003ish and that obviously wasn't a good time to be living in a Texas town....based on how they were treated, it makes me nervous to visit a part of the country like that. Meanwhile, my family has always lived in NY where 9/11 actually happened and lots of families in our town lost members, and no one treated us any differently or went up to us in the grocery store to ask us racist questions. So yeah I hate stereotypes too, but i'd be nervous about visiting the confederacy.</p>
<p>BlueDevilBBall, you have no idea what you are talking about. I don't know where in texas you lived, but I have lived in the southeast my whole life, and my entire family is from the south, particularly georgia and tennessee, and your stereotypes are ridiculous. Sure, there are people that may hold up to your stereotypes within the south, but the majority do not. I highly doubt you would have that problem in Dallas or Houston. </p>
<p>Your disdain for the south is clouding your judgment. Characterizing a whole section of the country as racist shows your bigotry toward those in the south you pompous, self righteous hypocrite. This is not the first time I have seen you ragging on the south. Stop spreading false rumors.</p>
<p>^ so you're saying it's not true? that's kind of a relief considering you've lived there your whole life. still, I guess it depends on the region. I can't see anyone having a problem in Dallas or Houston, whereas my family lived in a smaller suburb area. </p>
<p>i've heard the same thing about tennessee, from my college friend who's from a place called Chattanooga (city? small town? I don't know) because she's asian. I guess it depends if you're from a small town vs. major suburb or city. Texas has a big hispanic population too so i'm guessing this is not a big issue like it was 50 years ago?</p>
<p>But Hermanns, aren't you from Florida? Florida is culturally different from texas. my boyfriend's from Miami and it's waaaay different from the rest of the south.</p>
<p>Yes, I am from florida, but not miami. I live not very far from georgia, and a couple hours north of the long island retiree hotspots known as clearwater and st. pete. (about 1 hr from ga border), and have spent extensive time in georgia in atlanta suburbs where much of my family lives. I agree miami is nothing like the rest of the south as it is about 2/3 hispanic, but there are many hispanics throughout florida, mostly cubans and puerto ricans in my experience. There are also a ton of black people where I live (and all throughout the south), and no one turns their head when they walk down the street. Some of my best friends who are black come from alabama, georgia, and tennessee will attest to that. My high school was about 1/2 black.</p>
<p>As far as asians and arabs...there just aren't many of them in the south. I knew only a handful of asians back home (now I have many asian friends at cornell), and only one arab guy, but none of them were hassled based on ethnicity. I can't speak for the whole south, but there are bigots everywhere, and calling the south racist is over the top, especially when one was limited to a single area in one state. Bigotry is much more likely to be found in isolated areas, not in major cities/metro areas such as dallas, houston, atlanta, charlotte, memphis, etc...</p>
<p>Alright no one cares about this regional argument, the thread is about vices at Cornell. Let's get back on topic.</p>
<p>Another good way to procure alcohol is at Tops. If you have a car, a passable fake, and live on North, Tops should be on your short-list. They have a decent selection (we mostly just get 30s and vodka from here). The real advantage of Tops is the proximity to North (it's near the mall...about a 3-4 min drive from the RPC lot) and the ease of acquiring alcohol. Usually they have a student or someone young working at the register--always check out with a younger person as they will be noticeably more lax checking IDs. As always, make sure to have everyone but the person buying stay in the car.</p>