First, data corrections: I have previously quoted Ivy Coach’s number that Brown’s RD admission rate is 6.9% for class of 2021. Ivy Coach’s number excludes ED deferred. Including them, last year’s RD admission rate was 6.5%. And the letter some of you received for your ED deferral has not been updated. Brown has a new Dean of Admission (https://news.brown.edu/articles/2016/05/powell) and last year was the first time he was in charge. According to http://www.browndailyherald.com/2017/03/30/u-admits-record-low-8-3-percent-applicants-class-2021/ , “Of those deferred from early decision, 5.4 percent were admitted regular decision.” That is 1.1% less than general RD admission rate. The deferral letter states “You should know that during the past few years the admission rate for students deferred Early Decision has been consistent with that for Regular Decision applicants”. I would argue that 5.4% is 17% less than 6.5% and some people might choose to go to court to argue that. Brown admin takes notice – it is best not to put anything in writing.
Brown is late at releasing this year’s applicant data. Here is last year’s data (http://www.browndailyherald.com/2017/03/21/class-2021-applicant-profile/). Don’t forget to see how many candidates are from your state. 90 are from Kansas. It is best not to release data like that either to avoid court challenge. When comparing with Diversity data (https://www.brown.edu/about/administration/institutional-research/factbook/enrollment), you can clearly see the following:
44% of applicants are white and 42.3% of enrolled students are white.
9% of applicants are black or African American and 11% of applicants are Hispanic or Latinx. 18.6% of enrolled students are “HUG”.
Cool, it looks like the number of applicants is consistent with the number of enrolled students. Or is it?
24% of applicants are Asian and 13.1% of enrolled students are Asian.
Regarding interview:
First, a big congratulation to @bruno14 and @iwannabe_Brown for their residency match.
In 2010, when bruno14 was admitted at ED, there were 2379 ED apps and 15934 RD apps. Last year there were 3170 ED apps and 29554 RD apps. This year the number can only increase. I am totally for the idea that every candidate should be interviewed. But is it possible now? The number of interviewers cannot grow as fast as the number of applicants. I am sorry to say that at this point some of those candidates would have to be let go in less than 8 minutes according to a recent WSJ article.
Now if Brown hired a management consultant to optimize the interview process, the goal should be that every candidate presented on the committee table should have an interview report. Given the limited number of interviewers, the school must give priority to the most qualified candidates. Otherwise, there is no guarantee that those who are presented at committee will have an interview report. While interviewers are ambassadors for Brown, it is just impossible and there is no need to talk to those people who have no chance of being admitted. It is well known that Harvard only interview selected candidates. Brown is not a lesser Ivy and I believe Brown would efficiently use its resources.
Bruno14 is coming from a private school. In the interview FAQ, Fireandrain clearly states that some private school kids are not interviewed since regional AOs can communicate with GCs directly. Bruno14’s experience might be different from more and more kids who come from public schools. We are from an area which has a number of famous private schools and we have found that, indeed, those schools’ privileged students are much more successful in college application process. That is despite the fact that our public school has close to 30 NMFs and close to 40 students finished multi-variable calculus in high school. That also explains why some students from other areas are having problems with their first math course in college. ( http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21264628/#Comment_21264628 ) ( http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/2059617-how-hard-is-calculus-at-yale.html )
I have studied data on CC for a long time. You should do your homework too. Just look through the data for the last 10 years and see how many who said they don’t have an interview were admitted. If you don’t have extenuating circumstances and do not have an interview for non-rural Ivy League schools (I never studied Dartmouth and Cornell since we are not interested in rural schools), your chance of being admitted is much lower than those people who have an interview. I only studied data at least one year old because I want to see the outcome. The only assumption I make is if someone is actively posting on CC, one would happily share their admission to Ivies to their internet friends. Admission to Brown is a happy moment. If you are a jazz musician, from some states which have less than 10 students matriculated every year, or you are disadvantaged, many schools don’t interview you. Those private school kids have been coached for years for interviews, it is just utterly unfair to judge some others by how they perform in the interview.
I am the kind of persons who are most interested in negative/critical reviews. The majority of reviews in Amazon and TripAdvisor are either generated by robots or paid writers so you must learn how to distinguish the fake from the real ones. Anecdotal evident is the key to distinguish them.
Regarding negative Brown comments, I am interested in the comments made by geoforce221 and some others like him. This one is memorable (http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/11034637/#Comment_11034637). In summary, this individual has been dwelled on HYP ranking since the day he was admitted in ED and despite that fact that he was admitted to UPenn MD/PhD program successfully, he constantly complaints that Brown’s research is not as good as HYP. He never appreciates what he has. However, he is the person who makes us believe you cannot go wrong with Brown if you intend to do premed there. BTW, @iwannabe_Brown , I think your C in organic chem I and B in organic chem II will mostly like cause some troubles today when applying for med schools. It is just everything is much more competitive these days.
I think someone was asking about “AP”. According to Jim Miller (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxXuMKYI6Ok&lc=Uggiue1-tpIe_3gCoAEC watch from 25 minutes for the jokes), his GC thinks Brown is in Europe. The high school he went to have no AP course. AP is a grocery store chain in his town. So when he got into Brown and people said they have 4 APs, he said “Wow, we only have one … you guys are from a really big town”.
At Brown, APs only place students in more advanced course and do not count credits. If you intend to graduate in three years, that is fine. But remember you still have to pay four years’ tuition.
Lastly, remember your goal. I think in 2011 a mother posted on CC asking for opinions on choosing between Harvard and Brown PLME. Her daughter really wants to become a doctor. Of course, her DD went to Harvard. Two years later, the last post this mother posted on CC was her DD decided not to worry about grades any more and would instead join a varsity sport team.
Best wishes to all, you will be successful wherever you go.