10 Undergraduate Business Schools to Watch in 2019 - Emory University Goizueta

There is an essay question with the application and they do care about it.

Essay
The BBA Program seeks students who are fully engaged in the Emory or Oxford Community. Attach an essay describing the ways in which you have contributed to the campus community since entering Emory or Oxford.
If for any reason you have not engaged in the community, please use this space to indicate why not, and explain the other activities to which you have devoted your energies.

If you are just passing through Bs and aren’t engage in the Emory Community, they don’t like it and they talk about this at the pre Business sessions of orientation in August.

@collegemom9 : That may be for some of the pre-healths/STEM major as well as those in lower grading majors/courses (like if they’ve started a QTM major) because the mean for an admit is 3.6+ now:https://goizueta.emory.edu/degree/undergraduate/admissions/profile.html

If you have fairly standard pre-business pre-reqs and had a 3.0-3.3, it may cause them to pause, especially if other components of the application are middling or weak.

When I said solid B’s. I meant a 3.5 (which is solidly in the B range) @bernie12

This is from an interview with Jess Lowy from about 9 months ago. It describes the application process much better. Also, most between B 3.0 and B+ 3.333 will probably get in, unless they are doing nothing on campus.

https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/2018/07/13/getting-into-goizueta-business-school/

@ljberkow Thank you for posting. No need to get people so worried that they won’t get in to the B school.

You’re welcome. Also, Jess Lowy and Libby Egnor are great resources for anyone interested in the business school and also advise pre-business students. I think advisement in pre-business and once in GBS is a strength for Emory. With my kid, the offers of direct admission to top business schools seemed like a draw, at first. Once you peel back the onion, Emory and GBS makes as much or more sense. The students get all of the benefits of being in a first class liberal arts university and the advisement and other benefits of being in the business school. As a high school senior applying Emory, I don’t think there should be a real added worry about getting into Goizueta. This is not the same with some universities that have freshmen admission to business schools and then admit others along the way.

@ljberkow I think the big take away is to get involved and get to know the advisers. All stuff I’ve been telling my son but in black and white will make my son listen more lol. Everything I’ve been told thus far is that the big hurdle is getting into Emory not Goizueta.

Here’s an interesting listen on Goizueta from Atlanta Business Journal where Dean James and Dean Elliott explain how business schools and liberal arts schools mesh together.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2019/04/19/how-business-schools-and-the-liberal-arts-mesh.html

Collegemom, the more they get involved, the greater the opportunities down the road in internships, etc. From the other side, GBS is still small enough to make for an environment where the advisors know the students. I hope all considering Emory for business that will be in Class of 2024 think big picture on this and not just direct admission to a business school.I certainly understand that, for some, they may not want the liberal arts, and a direct admission to Kelley (IU) works better. I’d like to think that the combination of the liberal arts, where emphasis is placed on critical thinking and business, is the future.

I am confused. A 3.6+ usually means mostly A-s or some mixture of mostly A grades with some B grades (mostly B+). Their average to me just indicates that most pre-business students take “standard” pathways to GBS, and that not as many pursue “GPA challenged” pathways. I’m sure many get in, but they just don’t comprise the bulk of the applicant pool. Again, I suspect they are often those re-considering or trying to add something like pre-health to their GPA. Those cases were mentioned in some advising documents associated with GBS if my memory serves me correctly. Overall I do believe in the truth of the general sentiment that they are clearly looking for reasons to admit students as opposed to denying them.

ljberkow, if there wasn’t some risk of not getting into the bus school then why make it an application based admission after attending Emory. Acceptance is not 100% so there is some risk, and some advantage to attending schools that admit to business on admission to the school. Agree that they have every intention to get as many people in who wants to, however still looking for clear criteria for acceptance/rejection. I highly doubt that the majority of students who declared business interest from day 1 all had GPA of 3.6 or higher. Trying to find all info for how it all works.

@gagmd1 there isn’t a clear criteria posted because the application process is holistic. At 95% acceptance for last year, that’s pretty darn close to 100%.

@gagmd1 : The GPA of 3.6 is believable for the reason I explained above. Mainly that if you only plan to major in GBS, these are the requirements you must fullfill to enter:
https://goizueta.emory.edu/degree/undergraduate/curriculum/descriptions.html

They are very liberal on the use of AP credit and Emory students are high achieving meaning that many will just AP out of the non-GBS hosted requirements (the GBS hosted requirements would be DSci and financial accounting) and be able to pretty much just take Gen. ed. courses in what may be high grading areas. The most likely B grades would come from the economics and GBS hosted pre-reqs because they fit those grades to a distribution that usually yields a 3.15-3.3 average/median. Theoretically they may, in most of the other gen. ed classes, if not particularly challenging (at least in terms of grading, not necessarily workload) just earn A/A-. It isn’t really necessary to take on a particularly challenging course schedule before admissions, however students will experience it in GBS which is why they at least recommend a semester or two with 5 courses (because 5 courses is pretty much a norm once in GBS).

It is application based with minimum standards. Please read the article in the link I provided above in post #23 in this thread, with Jess Lowy. She takes the reader through the admission process. It’s not 100%, but it’s also not a competitive process either.

The profile for the class of 2018, average GPA was 3.63. Average SAT 1381. 42% female. Domestic minorities 9%. International 24%.

https://goizueta.emory.edu/degree/undergraduate/admissions/profile.html

That’s the average and it doesn’t relate to risk of admission.

I have. It idea what DSci is…

@collegemom9 just guessing but I’m thinking this from the description (DSci = data science?)

Emory College students: ISOM 350 OR AP Statistics credit. Oxford College students: MATH 117 Introduction to Probability and Statistical Inference OR AP Statistics credit. Note: other statistics courses at Emory or Oxford, such as QTM 100 and MATH 107, cannot satisfy this requirement.

@ljberkow ok thanks. My son is taking the Stats AP exam so hoping to use that credit. Bernie must have old information on that class.

@collegemom9 : No, it is a nickname for the data and decision analytics course which is the GBS hosted stats. class. They allow use of AP to exempt it, but the course is actually much more challenging than the AP because it uses more complex business related situations and cases to teach stats: http://college.emory.edu/oue/documents/blue-gold-pages-faculty-edition.pdf

Course is labelled in that (ISOM 350)

@bernie12 do you enjoy talking in riddles lol? You do understand that most people here are not current or past students and don’t know the nicknames and shorthand of the classes you speak of? If my son gets the 4 or 5 on stats he’ll use that credit but thanks for the info.

I thought most people associated with the business school or had a student there would get the point. I also thought that the weblink I posted stated the name of the course, so one could kind of put 2 and 2 together. I was wrong on the link part at least. And I usually don’t talk in riddles…would you like me to go back to writing novels? I can do that, though I prefer not to. If you join the Emory community, learn the lingo.Not my obligation to bypass the lingo I am aware of. @ljberkow pretty much figured it out