<p>I still have yet to get my decision and it is past april 15th....I'm flying to madison on monday with a changeover in detroit, I would have visited Michigan had I heard but now I won't. They told me the 15th.....AND NOTHING!!!</p>
<p>guapocarlos, what state do you reside?</p>
<p>Massachusetts, I know it's probably gonna take till monday cause I love kinda far away, but other people are hearing in the mail and they don't live much closer than me.</p>
<p>oh, im in cali, are you going to wisconsin? cuz i was thinking about going there but i am kinda a wuss when it comes to going out of state, i know michigan is more of an urban campus and i fear that wisconsin is not urban at all but instead "on the country side" even though i have seen pics of madison and it looks pretty urban...since i have never been there i still have that fear. If you have any details about madison please fill me in! or when u go there...</p>
<p>I will be taking pics prob...It's in the state capitol so I guess it is as cityish as you can get in the midwest.</p>
<p>I used to live out in Westlake Village, Ventura county area. Where in Cali are you from?</p>
<p>Im from los angeles, i love the big city...so if i decide wisconsin, i think it would be kinda weird since its kinda like in the middle of country or possibly nowhere or something! make sure you write about your experience lol!</p>
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whats really bothering for me is, this kid almost the same exact stats , i may have a lot more ECs, got accepted just because of his race..this really really ****es me off. Affirmative action sucks.
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<p>Exact same stats? How could you really know? Did you guys go to the same school? Can you calculate his MI GPA accurately? Do you know his family income, parental education, number of dependents in the household? Those "stats" matter too. </p>
<p>Before I'd believe he got in by his race alone, I'd have to know a lot more about that--and a lot of other unknowable things, such as what his recommendations said and what his essays were like. And yours. Unknowable. You can make the knee-jerk assumption that his only admit factor was his race, but I wouldn't. Race is a definite plus factor, but it's not the only thing that can get someone admitted.</p>
<p>How about this?</p>
<p>Applicant A) GPA 3.58 (UM GPA 3.25), 28 ACT, 2 dependents, 150+K income, black female, parents went to Ivy schools, accepted</p>
<p>Applicant B) GPA 3.65 (UM GPA 3.3), 29 ACT, 2 dependents, 70K income, white male, parents went to UMich, waitlisted</p>
<p>Both from the same school in-state.</p>
<p>Is this "Affirmative Action"? Or do majors matter? A applied to Poly Sci, B to Kinesiology</p>
<p>Majors may matter--I mean, insofar as these people applied to completely different U-M schools. Do Kines and LSA even have the same readers? That I don't know. </p>
<p>More importantly, essays and recommendations matter, too. </p>
<p>Stats do seem similar (although I've stopped wholly believing the "Michigan GPAs" I've seen self-calculated by students--too many errors). Same count of academic courses, too, I assume? This is more a rhetorical question, as I don't like to see students post other students application information here. That's for them to share. But it's something to consider.</p>
<p>We already know race is a plus factor, but there may have been other plus factors.</p>
<p>Why does family income and parental education matter?</p>
<p>Because being the first generation in your family to attend college, or being lower income, are also plus factors.</p>
<p>If your parents are well-educated they've already experienced what it's like to be a good student and have possibly established a tradition of education in their household and probably have higher income. If you have a higher income, you can afford to put your children through better private schools or through prep courses and tutors. Wealthier areas where only higher income families can afford also usually boats better public school systems. All of this is not to say that if your parents haven't had a formal education and aren't in the higher income bracket, that you can't succeed education wise, but if you have money and educated parents, there usually some benefits.</p>
<p>Oops...I think I answered guapocarlos' question wrong...hoedown's answer makes more sense in terms of college admissions...</p>
<p>A2Wolves6- The students applied to different schools, you can not use such a comparison because the schools have different things they are looking for.</p>
<p>i still havnt gotten my decision letter from umich yet.... it said in the deferral letter that i will get it mid april, and i will have to make my decision pretty soon. what should i do?</p>
<p>I thought schools didnt look at that. Actually now that I think of it I'm pretty sure Michigan is the only school I had to put my parents income for. All the others only required their previous education.</p>
<p>This decision did nothing!!!! I still am in limbo. omg this blows. well no umich for me, think after May 1st spots will open for more than say... 5 ppl?! I'm going to have call them.</p>
<p>can I send in a letter or something to try to get off the waitlist, or do they not want any of that????</p>
<p>They don't want any of that. The point of the waitlist is to move on, find another university to attend, and in the slim possibility that a spot opens up, they offer it to you, and you choose to accept the offer, then you choose to do so. They are not going to accept anymore applicants, and a letter definitely won't help your chances.</p>
<p>I got my letter today, and to my "suprise" it was a waitlist after being deferred from October...part of me wants to accept this waitlist just to see what happens but the other 99% of me wants to turn it down since I'm so frustrated with Michigan's addmissions right now. Out of curiosity, is anyone going to accept this waitlist?</p>