<p>F Michigan!! the UC system is better!!! GO UCLA/UCBERK!!</p>
<p>lol jakem i wish that was possible. I had the same stats as you and i even sent them a letter that UMich is my first choice and yet they waitlisted me. </p>
<p>On the other hand, i'm glad that i didn't get in (i know i'm contradicting myself!). What's the point of going to a university that hardly cares about you?</p>
<p>haha it seems like mich just threw all the deferred people into the waitlist w/o even lookign at our apps again.</p>
<p>That's true. The only reason i can think of that got me in is my pretty high achievement in athletics, although i don't see how that could help too much. I'm about 85% sure on Case Western because i won't be a number to the profs, people will actually help me at Case.</p>
<p>The only reason i'd go to Mich is if i fall in love with it on my visit.</p>
<p>It's funny because when i called the day i got my decision online, the lady checked my file and said that no decision has been made. After couple hours, I get a decision of waitlist. It REALLY looks like they just threw lots of the deferred applicants to waitlist without "thorough review of the application".
That just kind of makes me really mad since lots of us waited for 5~6 months for a decision.....</p>
<p>Some clarification.</p>
<p>If Michigan specifically told you it was deferring your application for additional information, then there is no reason to think they didn't review it again once it came in. </p>
<p>But if they told you were deferred without asking for information, then why is there an expectation that they'll read each deferred application again? An application is read three times when it is evaluated. Unless the deferral specifically states you are being deferred for new information, then the evaluation would presumably stay as it is. What is being deferred is the decision--not the evaluation.</p>
<p>I know this doesn't change the disappointment.</p>
<p>So what you're saying hoedown, is that Michigan already knew what their final decision was going to be, and that they were making you wait for April to hear it.</p>
<p>If so, that is cruel. And that is abuse by the university.</p>
<p>No, that is not what I said.</p>
<p>She didn't mean it that way. I think what she meant was that a deferral is a decision. They reviewed the application, judged it, and just decided to wait and see what the decisions of other applicants who were already admitted would be (a.k.a. yes or no to being a Wolverine the following year) before they would say whether or not you would be accepted. Remember that they accept students in batches based off of what their original ranking was and whether or not they can afford to accept them at the time. I'm sure that the same is true after a deferral.</p>
<p>my umich gpa was like 3.0-3.2 (i took 7 APs in Soph and Junior)
*i know its kind of low i had basically the hardest courseload
i'm taking 3 APs this year
my SAT was 2270 (790 V, 770 M, 710 W) (took it once)
SAT IIs were 780,770,770,740
APs were 5,5,4,4,4,4</p>
<p>applied in late december</p>
<p>deffered in early february</p>
<p>i sent in mid-year, letter, and additional recomendation</p>
<p>my mid-year grades were significantly better than 10th and 11th grade (approx 3.8 umich gpa)</p>
<p>and i was waitlisted a few days ago</p>
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An application is read three times when it is evaluated. Unless the deferral specifically states you are being deferred for new information, then the evaluation would presumably stay as it is.
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That's what she said.</p>
<p>So my question is, if the initial evaluation is "Admit", then why defer the admit? If the initial evaluation is "Waitlist", why wait until mid-April?</p>
<p>reeses, thanks. You did better explaining it in a short paragraph than I ever manage.</p>
<p>I gave another rundown in another thread that MightyNick bumped, in case anyone give a hoot.</p>
<p>Because A2Wolves, it's a two-stage process. A college has to decide if wants you. Then it has to decide if it has room for you. </p>
<p>In a deferral situation, you can assume that the college evaluated you and decided it wants you. However, it isn't sure it will be able to act on that desire. It is deferring the admit decision until it knows that it can (or can't). If it can't, you get waitlisted. Or denied for lack of space.</p>
<p>"Waitlist" isn't an evaluation category. No one is called a "Waitlist" when they are evaluated, not in October or March any other time. There might be other schools who do that. Michigan doesn't. It makes that call at the end, for some evaluated candidates who haven't gotten a decision yet.</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying hoedown and I think it pretty much makes sense
but on the defferal letter, it said they would re-evaluate apps so send additional materials if possible
maybe that's what the others are talking about</p>
<p>whats really bothering for me is, this kid almost the same exact stats , i may have a lot more ECs, got accepted just because of his race..this really really ****es me off. Affirmative action sucks.</p>
<p>Well, the good news is that my admissions counselor told me that there is a very large chance they will admit students off the waitlist this year, so don't lose hope yet!</p>
<p>Well... I was waitlisted this morning. I don't know what to say. I'm speechless.</p>
<p>I feel your pain A2Wolves. I waitlisted for Sport Management too this morning...I wouldn't be as upset with the decision itself if they didn't make the wait so long.</p>
<p>just one dumb question
do we have to deposit any money to remain on the witlist?</p>
<p>no, you don't.</p>