<p>sorry that was so unnecessarily long.</p>
<p>More question:)
Firstly, are 'course units' and 'credits' the same thing?</p>
<ol>
<li><p>How many course units/credits needed to complete a Dual degree in Wharton+PPE major of College?</p></li>
<li><p>How many course units/credits needed to complete Jerome Fisher MnT program?</p></li>
<li><p>If u dont get into the MnT program, can u still create your own exact copy of the program by doing a dual degree in wharton and applied science and have the same number of course units/credits?</p></li>
</ol>
<p>(btw, If you cannot answer these questions easily within a few minutes, dont bother, youve already been REALLY helpful:) I can try and find someone else to answer)
THANKX!</p>
<p>And another thing: If I am a BFS can I CHOOSE my advisor, or do I get assigned a random adviser?</p>
<p>If I write slightly more than 500 words in the housing app, will they simply cut it off or leave it there?</p>
<p>yeah, im sorry but i dont know the specifics on those things. but the website for the MnT program is <a href="http://www.upenn.edu/fisher%5B/url%5D">http://www.upenn.edu/fisher</a>. You'd probably want to talk to your academic advisor and about the possibility of double majoring in applied science and wharton and the courses you could take the mirror the program. as far as i know everybody is assigned an advisor based upon their intended major they listed and if you are in BFS they might have a specific couple of professors who advise all the students in that program. like i know there is 1 advisor for all the kids who are vagelos scholars. so i guess penn does do their system as course units but i think they also refer to them as credits, usually a class is worth 1 c.u. I dont know if they cut stuff off or not on the housing app. if possible i'd try to get it a little under 500 words to be safe.</p>
<p>Im decidin between the Law and Society program and Living cultures program for second choice. Where is a a nicer place to live in the quad? Either:
1. McIlhenny136-144; Warwick 151-166; and Ward 169-177. or
2. 1st and 2nd floors of Baird, Carruth, Fitler, Hopkinson, Lippincott, Memorial Tower, NY Alumni and Provost Smith</p>
<p>Btw, the Entrepreneurs program says the "This program is located on 2nd floor of Coxe" - isnt this kind of small space compared to the other two I listed above? would this mean its really competitive to get in?</p>
<p>(btw, I have these info from the 2006-2007 verision of the program info. u probably checked the 05-06 one by mistake last time.) THankx</p>
<p>btw, having a foosball table close is a plus for me. I think only Riepe has one in the Quad. Or is it easily accessible from anyplace in the Quad?</p>
<p>when i checked it said the entrepreneurs program is on the 5th floor of rodney/coxe/ef smith... 2nd floor of these same buildings is the the women in science and study of infectious disease program and i know for a fact that the WinS/ID is not changing next year.</p>
<p>as far as the other two choices thats a little tough. I really like Riepe and the baby quad is really neat and the rooms are nice and they have a lot of common rooms. (this is where ward, warwick, and mcilhenney are) and its a quieter area of the quad and you have a pretty good view on the outside or inside of the quad. </p>
<p>Fisher-Hassenfeld is good too and if you have a courtyard side room then its really nice and you get a good view into the quad. if you have a street side room then its noisier and you dont get the prettier views. That stretch of rooms from the few i have seen seem really nice.</p>
<p>for me its a bit of a toss up, but personally if i had to pick another place in the quad to live in, i would want to live in Riepe over Fisher-Hassenfeld</p>
<p>Hey Brittanicajack,
I know we're all probably giving you a hassle with this, but I've been asking around a lot and you seem very helpful providing answers.. I've been researching the college houses, and I've read alot of threads here, on myspace, and on the penn forum, but I can't seem to be able to put information together.
I know what I want but I just don't know which house will provide that. The following is a list of my priorities in order of importance; I just want ur opinion on which house u think is most suitable according to my needs/wants...
1. i want an apartment/suite that has two separate rooms (not two beds in one room, but I definitely want a roommate) and an in-suite/apartment bathroom. Since I cover my head, it doesn't sound convenient for me to use communal bathrooms
2. a college house where I can go up to people randomly and introduce myself without having to feel weird about it...u know what i mean? like im the type whoz outgoing and goes to people and introduces myself before people coming to me. I just don't want to feel weird doing that, so basically, good social, friendly house...I heard the quad was great for freshmen social life, however, I also heard social life there was based on drinking. I don't wanna feel like im outta place bcuz I don't drink...so if drinking and partying is the way to meet friends, then its not the right place for me
3. i dont play any instruments but i dance, so it would be a great plus if the house had a practice dancing room..
4. i dont have a laptop, so it would be necessary for the house to have a computer lab
5. easy access to classes...i dont want to wake up half an hour earlier than anyone else to get to class on time, but if thats the only condition the house wont meet, then I will manage..
5. exercise or fitness room.</p>
<p>I know ur thinking "house brochure" but i read that from cover to cover and it doesnt help me that much...i mean it tells me what the pros of each college house is, but it doesnt tell me the cons, and it doesnt give me a clear perspective on each...
ur help is tremendously appreciated...
thank u sooo much</p>
<p>*by the way, im an int'l student ... if i lived in the states, i would have visited the place myself and saved u all the trouble...</p>
<p>Well the quad is great socially and i dont drink either and even though i wouldnt go out to party with my hallmates we all still hung out and went to breakfast and did other things together so that we developed close relationships. If room style is your top priority (ie 2 separate bedrooms, in-room bathroom) you have to go with the highrises. I dont think anywhere else on campus really offers you this. all the college houses should have computer rooms and the highrises and the quad have small workout rooms although i dont know why you would use them when you could go to pottruck which is an amazing gym. the highrises however, do not have the easy access to classes (hill and quad are closest to classes). harnwell would be the highrise closest to the bridge to get to classes. and i dont see why you should feel socially out of place in the highrises, im sure people are just as friendly there.. and i dont know of any housing with practice dancing rooms. so while i'd highly recommend the quad to anyone, it sounds like for what you are looking for the highrises might be a better choice.</p>
<p>brittanicajack, I sent you a private message. :)</p>
<p>Hey upenn_rocks, I'm in the M&T program and so I can most accurately answer this question (the other two are simply accounting issues)</p>
<ol>
<li>If u dont get into the MnT program, can u still create your own exact copy of the program by doing a dual degree in wharton and applied science and have the same number of course units/credits?</li>
</ol>
<p>You can indeed do a dual degree, but there's no reason to exactly mimic the program...if you end up doing dual degree, you might as well just taylor the curriculum to be exactly what you want. But the answer is a resounding yes: M&T is just a special joint degree program, but it's definitely not the only way to get both a Wharton and Engineering education.</p>
<p>Is the pottruck accessible to all penn students? i mean is it part of the campus or an outside gym in the city? also, are the gyms in the houses free or do u have to pay to use 'em?</p>
<p>The pottruck is accessible to all Penn students, but people in the city can also get memberships there. And all the gyms on campus are free, although during the summer, there is a charge, I believe.</p>
<p>pottruck is at 38th and walnut ... right across the street from huntsman hall</p>
<p>Since people in the city get membership, too, does their presence ever feel intruding, or is it not an issue?</p>
<p>Non issue.</p>
<p>City residents cant purchase memberships to the gym anymore, only those who purchased memberships when the gym opened can renew, and its a small percentage. Mostly its just students who use the gym and a lot of the older people in the gym are employees or faculty of UPenn and HUP.</p>
<p>Hey, somehow I stumbled across this site and saw a posting about the Law and Society Program, which I was in this past year. Here's what you need to know. First of all, apply to it, all of the rooms in that part of the quad are very, very good, much nicer doubles than in the other parts of the quad and good enough singles. As for the program itself, it does absolutely nothing. And when I mean nothing, I mean nothing. And don't think you'll be surrounded by a bunch of people who wanna talk nonstop about politics. So write the stupid essay, it's worth it. </p>
<p>About living in the quad in general... I don't think that my first year experience would have been nearly as enjoyable if I lived anywhere else. And everyone in Hill will tell you how great the community is there, and I have no doubt that it is. But the reason they become so close initially is because they're bonded together by the common misery of living in the dump that is Hill. Just wait for the first week of school when the Quad kids have AC and Hill kids are living in saunas. There are tons of reasons why you should choose the quad over hill and every other choice, unless you're totally adverse to some noise on the weekends. that's all i've got.</p>
<p>just want to say thanks for you being so willing to answer questions...if i would have read this forum earlier i would have had more questions! haha ...but here goes
1. i dont know if you're pre-med or not, but do you think it would be hard to have a major, a minor, be pre-med and still get the chance to go abroad?
2. is the penn directory thing worth it?
3. when it comes to picking courses...would you recommend 4 or 5 a semester? and as far as science classes go, is it too much to take more than 1 a semester...like taking bio and chem?</p>