<p>This has been bothering me I got a 2230/2400 with a 700 on math 730 cr and 800 writing but people keep telling me that basically a 1430/1600 and 2230/2400 isn't good enough for the top schools Since when do these scores not put me in the running at the elite schools?</p>
<p>You need to check the Common Data Set (or Fact Book) from each school in which you are interested. Generally, if you're up around the 75% you are very competitive. Noone can tell what will happen with applications to the ivys and top schools because of the number of applications they see and what they are looking for to balance the class.</p>
<p>i am in the middle 50 percent for all the top schools for each score but i assume that people who have lower scores in one section have higher scores in another also why do these schools seem not to care about the writing section at all</p>
<p>Some colleges treat the writing section as if it is the SAT Writing Subject Test.</p>
<p>thanks nyjunior do u happen to know which colleges do that</p>
<p>When you are talking HYPS it isn't good enough, but that is great for UC's and some of the lower ivies.</p>
<p>would you say it's good enough for brown, dartmouth, upenn, pomona, or Northwestern?</p>
<p>Your scores would be below the 50th %ile for Pomona:</p>
<p>Average SAT's for Pomona class of 2011 acceptances: <a href="http://www.tsl.pomona.edu/index.php?page=news&article=2412&issue=82%5B/url%5D">http://www.tsl.pomona.edu/index.php?page=news&article=2412&issue=82</a></p>
<p>740M, 750R, 740CW.</p>
<p>And I agree with above posters that most students in the lower 50th %ile at these top schools probably have an awesome hook (legacy, cured cancer, URM who also cured cancer, etc)</p>
<p>If you don't have that hook, I'd say take practice SATs for 12 weeks, take the exam again, get 2300 or above and you're all set.</p>
<p>I know a student who had gotten 2230 with M:780, R:760, and W:690.
In this case, it is 1540/1600, and it may not be worth retaking as there is a chance that math score may go down. </p>
<p>In your case, retaking make a lot of sense if think you can bring the Math scores up.</p>
<p>thanks guys also would getting a 33 or higher on an act in some way safeguard my current sat scores if i sent both in</p>
<p>The 33 would outweigh the 2200 on the SAT by a bit, but it would be better though.</p>
<p>your score is FINE. its competitive at any school you apply to.... except maybe harvey mudd for math...</p>
<p>Your fine.</p>
<p>HYPS ----> Take Again
Anything Else ----> You are golden</p>
<p>id say you're fine for HYPS. as long as you have good grades and good activities/qualities</p>
<p>I think you are fine. Anyone with SAT1 2200 has a shot at all universities even the ones with < 10% admit rate.</p>
<p>I would have preferred your 800 being distributed to 700 math to make it 750, 730, 750.</p>
<p>It does depened after that on your SATII, course work, GPA, your school, ECs etc.</p>
<p>I don't think any University will reject you because you got a too low SAT1.</p>
<p>Although many students are accepted to HYPS with 2200 SAT's, they are in the minority. For example, according to Harvard's web site, this year 3000 applicants ranked #1 in their class, 2500 scored 800 on the critical reading, and 3200 scored 800 on the math section of the SAT I. They only accepted 2058 students. Just scan any of the HYPS threads on ED or RD acceptance results stats and you'll be surprised (alarmed?) at the caliber of student who gets waitlisted/rejected. The average SAT of HYPS accepted students is only about 50 points higher than the rejected students (saw this on CC - can't find the reference), so every little bit counts...</p>
<p>you only need (in terms of SAT 1 scores) above 1300/1900 to get into the most competitive schools, including harvard
APs and being top10 in your class matters a lot more</p>
<p>sats do not make up your whole app. you have to look at your app holistically... but id say anything above 2200 is good!</p>
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<p>That's an apples-to-oranges comparison, because Pomona admits more students than those who actually enroll, and most of the admitted students who don't enroll are at the high end of the score statistics (because they go to other colleges). To compare one school to another, compare the Common Data Set figures about ENROLLED students at each college, not the press releases colleges issue right after they send out admission offers.</p>