3.5 GPA Hispanic/Latino chances @ UCLA Law school

<p>3.52 UGPA Hispanic/Latino chances @ Law school
Hispanic/Latino male student from a state university out west. Two majors not political science. GPA 3.52, projected LSAT score about 165-170. I'm prepping now, haven't officially taken it, but working for the 170. Speak 4+ languages. Received prestigious journalism fellowship, participated in two journalism internships... one high-profile.
Most interested in entertainment law, intellectual property and international law.</p>

<p>Also interested in Loyola Marymount (LA) and Pepperdine.</p>

<p>WHAT ARE MY CHANCES REALLY? DESPITE THE LOW GPA.</p>

<p>Law schools in Orange County might be possible for me to get into, but again are tier 3 and 4. I don't want to settle for a bottom-ranked law school, get in debt, when the school has no specialization and I'll have a hard time getting a job and way in debt.</p>

<p>Should I forget about UCLA or USC?</p>

<p>Be honest, I don't want to waste time or money... but want to pursue law.</p>

<p>THANKS!</p>

<p>Is ethnicity even taken into account for law schools? I hope not. Why do people do state it when applying to state schools, seriously.</p>

<p>I do not know that it's taken into account especially in Southern California with so many Mexican-Americans. My family is Spaniard and I mention the Hispanic/Latino because of my significant life experiences in Spain and South America that are the basis for my personal essay. I do not write down my ethnicity on forms. I mentioned it in this forum to paint an accurate picture of who I am.
Now if you could please answer my question... what do you think are my chances?
What about USC? Loyola or Pepperdine?
I'm interested in media entertainment/ intellectual property law, Southwestern specializes in that area, but I believe it's a Tier 4 school is that even worth it? I doubt it.</p>

<p>Honestly, why would you listen to any of us about your getting into law school? We know as well as you do . . . Might as well ask a troll on a-u-t-o-a-d-m-i-t. [it censors the term here -_- so i had to throw in dashes]</p>

<p>Might as well ask someone in the Law</a> School Forum, which you haven't done yet! :mad:</p>

<p>Qipao, I don't know how your comment was useful to me or you and honestly I feel like you wasted your time so I'll move on.
GrassPuppet, I'm new to the Web site so I didn't know about the Law School Forum. So I thank you despite the silly emoticon.</p>

<p>Racial/Ethnic background is used and if your of the right flavor of URM, it will help immensly.</p>

<p>Your GPA is pretty low for a URM...usually 3.65+ makes you on par with non-URM applicants. However, if you do get within the 165-170 range, then I would apply to Columbia on down (4-14) with several schools outside the top-14 (I would throw Boalt out the window because your GPA is just to low for their school). With a 165+, Cornell, Duke, UVA, and possibly UPenn will bark. GULC really likes high LSATs 169+ (So I suggest you apply to their part-time program) and Northwestern may not take you because they value work experience alot.</p>

<p>All in all, if you break a 165, apply to some t-14s and expect one of the bottom t-14 schools to take you. UCLA will not take you into its general law school, your GPA is within their 25th-75th range but you really have to be stout applicant to get in with a GPA near their 25th percentile and you usually need a kick ass LSAT 168+.</p>

<p>I would apply to the Public Interest Program or the Critical Race Studies program since they both are "stealth affirmative action programs."</p>

<p>Best of luck...fyi...I am a black male so I know the system like the back of my hand and I am already in at three of t-14 schools and I am still awaiting results from U of Chicago, Harvard, and Stanford (its been an amazing cycle for me).</p>

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<p>Are you serious? You don't even know the ethnic distinction(s) between Spaniards and Latin Americans. You claiming on this forum that you are Hispanic/Latino, despite your Spanish ancestry, makes you look foolish. I suggest you do a little more research about your background. Here's your chance to familiarize yourself with the power of the Web :rolleyes:</p>

<p>I do know the distinction between Spaniards and Latin Americans... we share a common language and common history because of what happened after 1492. True Hispanics are Spaniards. Besides my European ancestry does not change the fact that I look different than most white Americans, that my parents are immigrants and I faced similar difficulties other first-generation Americans face. </p>

<p>FYI... Most Hispanics have Spanish blood, many multi-generational Latin Americans are full-blooded Spanish or a mix of Spanish and other European ancestries (Italian, German, etc.)
Most Hispanics have Spanish blood mixed in with native and African Blood.
Some even have Asian or Middle Eastern blood and are still Hispanic/Latino. </p>

<p>I might also add that Spaniard actors such as Paz Vega and Antonio Banderas have played Mexicans.
Some Latin Americans such as Andy Garcia have played Italians.</p>

<p>Trust me... I look more like a light-skinned Latin American than the average blue-eyed, blond American and I didn't grow up with "white privilege."</p>

<p>I am proud to be an American and also proud of my relationship with Latin Americans.</p>

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That sounds really good. You should put it in your personal essay. I'm sure law school ADCOMs will be impressed. Do continue convincing others of who you are on this forum. It will undoubtedly help you get an acceptance into a law school.</p>

<p>And thanks for the quasi-history and genetics lesson. Please share more of your encyclopedic knowledge. Some of us ignoramuses who don't have any education and/or don't know how to use the library and Intarweb need enlightenment from someone as well-informed as you. We'll be waiting with abated breath for your next insightful contribution.</p>

<p>Does UCLA Law School practice holistic admissions? :rolleyes:</p>

<p>No and yes. 60% are admitted via a PIN (Personal I.D. Number) which is your LSAT X LSAC GPA X Strength of Undergraduate University...so 60% of the admitted students get in on strictly numbers.</p>

<p>The other 40% go through holistic admissions. Some programs have "focuses" (Public Interest and CRS) and you get a small bump if you interest/experiences align with the program focuses. Also, socio-economics are considered heavily in the holistic admissions process. I believe they reserve 20% of admissions offers (within the 40% that go through holistic)to those who came from disadvantage backgrounds.</p>

<p>I might just put in my personal essay... and thanks for the sarcasm ;)
Flopsy and bruinforlife interesting information.</p>

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Some people in the process of applying to law/medical/graduate/professional school, have graduated or about to graduate from college, are obtuse enough to think they are still disadvantaged.</p>

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:rolleyes:</p>

<p>So AA benefits people of certain European ancestry too?! ;)</p>

<p>I should have added something more to my terse response... In any case, I thought that A-u-t-o would have been more appropriate for your query... Good luck nonetheless.</p>

<p>Don't give up mijo</p>