5:30's are tops

<p>so I was going down the scoring chart for the PFT, and I noticed that in order to score in 99% for the run, midshipman are required to run 8:15 (5:30 mile pace). I'm not a track runner and my most intense mile was about a 6:10 and probably like a 9:50 for the 1.5. I can do the pushups and sit-ups but how are well are we expected to do when we take our first PFT. </p>

<p>I'm running my butt of right now, to keep below the minimum but I want to be scoring in at least the 90 percentile (8:30ish) for the run. Any advice or should just ride the hope that Plebe summer whip me into a 5:30 man?</p>

<p>you are expected to pass. While a good handful will max out, most will be satisfied that they at least pass. </p>

<p>You will be running almost daily during plebe summer, and while there is no guarantee that you will make that 5:30 mark, you will definitely improve.</p>

<p>Keep up with your running- it will not go to waste!</p>

<p>Try doing acceleration drills and sprints at the end of long runs; make sure to sprint at least a few meters farther every time you do this. If you want more challenge, I suggest running uphill while wearing boots and weights. I guarantee you'll be flying after you put on those sneakers. ;)</p>

<p>There is a great usna website that provides a link to a PRT training program, as well as a handy 'PRT Score Calculator':</p>

<p>Physical</a> Readiness Test (PRT)</p>

<p>rgrmebb, thanks for posting that handy PRT Score Calculator :)</p>

<p>I think my son will be happy to see his percentile when he plugs in his numbers. He's an athlete but he still had to train pretty hard for parts of the PRT.</p>

<p>Be careful of the calculator - it does not compute correctly!. Use the word document on the same page called PRT Standards. Each section is valued the same. Add your scores and divide by 3 and it will give you the correct score.</p>

<p>Example for a male:
Curl Ups 85 score is 82.0
Push Ups 90 score is 92.5
Run at 8:40 score is 92.4</p>

<p>Total 266.9 divided out to PRT Score of 88.96</p>

<p>If you use their calculator you will get 93.933 which is impossible since none of your raw scores were above 92.5!</p>

<p>My Mid pointed this out after relying on this "calculator" prior to plebe summer. What he thought was an A using the calculator ended up being a B when calculated by PE Department.</p>

<p>Profmom,</p>

<p>The on-line calculator gave an 89.3 for the scores you listed, which is a "B." This calculator correctly calculated my daughter's PRT score, and it is part of the official USNA site. It only gives the score you showed (93.9) if you accidentally chose "female" versus "male."</p>

<p>^^^ Male was entered and the score was 93.933. It gives you the exact same score if you choose male or female.</p>

<p>All I can tell you is that My Mid - who is male - has indicated on more than one occasion that the calculator in not correct but to look at the supporting document.</p>

<p>That calculator is not correct.</p>

<p>The minimum requirement for push-ups for males, when I was there, was 45. According to the percentage rubric from the linked website, it gives points all the way down to 40. I believe this website is outdated and is not providing the correct information.</p>

<p>I would not use this website. Additionally, on the admissions website it listed the male minimum as 40. Can any MIDN state whether the minimum requirement is still 45?</p>

<p>The Brigade MISLO website should have the most correct figures (it did when I was there). Unfortunately, that site is on USNA's Intranet, which is only available from the yard.</p>

<p>If you go to the PE Marking website, this is the "official, up-to-date" website, but this is also restricted to the yard, thus, anyone trying to access the page or folder will be forbidden.</p>

<p>8:15 is the best time eh? hm....at the AFA its 7:43 and thats at 7200 feet above annapolis.</p>

<p>2012 Mom: I come up with the same percentages as you using the PRT calculator. The female score is correct, but the male score is a few tenths off. I have been plugging in numbers testing the calculator and have found that sometimes it is correct, and sometimes it is not! (as stated by others already)</p>

<p>ProfMom2 is correct that you can figure out the overall score by using the 'PRT Standards' Chart at the same link, as she explained (assuming the chart is correct, as Jadler has mentioned,it may not be!). This would be the mose accurate way to determine the score (again, assuming the percentages are right).</p>

<p>Sorry for any confusion. I have plugged in my daughter's scores before and it has worked.</p>

<p>I do wonder if the 'PRT Standards' have changed over the years. I would be disappointed if they have lowered the standards.</p>

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<p>LOL!!! They don't call you "zoomies" for nothing!!! ;)</p>

<p>That's very interesting. You would think that all the Service Academies would have the same PRT Standards. Maybe there is an updated chart out there somewhere....</p>

<p>haha, i like that "zoomie" comment. </p>

<p>but yea, the AFA has unique fitness standards. there are actually two tests: the physical fitness test and aerobic fitness test. the AFT is the mile and a half run, whereas the PFT consists of pushups, pullups, standing long jump, sit ups, and 600 m dash. It is NOT fun.</p>

<p>There have been rumors all fall as to USNA going to fleet standards for the PRT. Can any of the Mids comment if this is true or just rumor.</p>

<p>its not changing</p>

<p>I was just thinking...If the USAFA "AFT" consists ONLY of the 1.5 mile run (is that correct?), then the top time of 7:43 cannot be compared to the USNA time, as the Mids must also do curl-ups and push-ups in combination with the run (uses up more energy!).</p>

<p>Back to the original question of this thread--advice on improving your running time. The PRT workout training program at the given link is one way to try to improve your time. It was written by the men's Navy Cross Country coach. I don't know how old this website is, but he as been the coach there a LONG time!</p>

<p>Also, maybe you could go to you high school XC/Track coach and ask for advice--or even work out with the team (or join the team, if you have the time!).</p>

<p>My mid is on the women's XC/Track team and whatever they are doing at their workouts, it works! My daughter's time has been dropping! It takes a lot of dedication, and she runs and does cross training (swimming or workouts on different equipment at the gym) even while home on breaks (they are given a schedule to follow).</p>

<p>Good luck...</p>

<p>What are the PFT Passing scores for each event?</p>

<p>that's true rgrmebb... the two tests are taken on different days, rather than a compiled one. and no, they aren't comparable. mids take one test at sea level and zoomies take two tests at 7200 feet ;).</p>