<p>What if you don't finish within that timeframe, do they kick you out without a degree?</p>
<p>I heard that you can petition for a fifth semester if you don’t finish the required courses in time. But I assume you don’t get your degree if you can’t complete all the courses in time.</p>
<p>They cut off your aid after the max time . Generally you can stay a little longer, but they wont pay the UC or Cal grant out to you .</p>
<p>thx, generally how many courses we need to take in one semester?</p>
<p>Around 4 classes a semester</p>
<p>You have to do summer school if you want to graduate on time, or do a little extra here and their . With the way the state budget is going it wouldn’t surprise me if they cut back on letting students stay a 5th year .
Anyway, while I’m not 100% sure on transfer students, I know the UC grant is limited to 4 years( cal grant is limited to 2 years on your transfer grant ) for 4 year students, so im asumming we only get 2 . </p>
<p>I’m going to UCR, I’m planing on overloading on units each quarter, getting EVERY major requirement done junior year then doing EAP for senior year.
I’m poli-sci so I think its doing able</p>
<p>Leonshan - 13 unit minimum per semester at UCB</p>
<p>Here’s what it says from my Condition of Admissions for UCB:</p>
<p>"Most College of Engineering majors have lower division requirements that do not have equivalents at California Community Colleges or other institutions, and therefore some students must be enrolled for more than four semesters at UC Berkeley to complete all of their requirements. "</p>
<p>So I guess being enrolled for more than four semesters is normal for transfer students. No way they will kick you out after four semesters.</p>
<p>Summer doesn’t count as the four semesters right? Rather it’s an extra semester to catch up? But I don’t think they’ll kick you out after four semesters. Cutting aid makes much more sense to me.</p>
<p>huh? you have until you reach the unit cap, which is generally after 4-5 semesters of transfer.</p>
<p>does cal have winter session???</p>
<p>Hmm, the unit cap and the maximum time frame for aid are 2 different things . Both can be appealed with good reason . I won my appeal at CC since 15 of my units were taken before I even graduated high school- which was epically unfair since you can’t get aid before graduating high school . </p>
<p>For CAL i’d assume you’d want to finish ASAP, keep in mind another quarter or 2 even with aid , is at least another 2 to 4 thousand in loans . </p>
<p>I’m doing everything possible to complete my major in 2 years . The last thing I want to do is spend extra time getting a B.A. . I’m a poli sci major I need grad school too !!!</p>
<p>Please read this. It’ll supply you with everything you’re looking for! 
[Office</a> of Undergraduate Advising: Unit Ceiling](<a href=“http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/registration/unitceiling.html]Office”>http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/registration/unitceiling.html)</p>
<p>UC Berkeley is very strict about their two calander year time limit for transfer students to either finish their requirements for graduation or have their enrollment terminated whether the student has enough credits to graduate or not. Some majors such as Engineering will be allowed one extra semester to finish their degree requirements before having their enrollment terminated. Students majoring in anything but Engineering and facing termination of their enrollment after two years without meeting their graduation requirements can petition for another semester but the request has to be made to your Dean and is very rarely approved.</p>
<p>UC Berkeley realizes this policy can sometimes result in harsh outcomes but there are only so many spots available for transfer students at UC Berkeley and if transfer students were allowed to stay for more than two years, the school would have to reduce the number of transfers that it can accept each year to stay within the limits set for transfer students studying at UC Berkeley. To give as many transfer students as possible an opportunity to go to UC Berkeley they have to be very inflexible on the two year maximum.</p>
<p>This means that CCC transfer students who have gotten into the habit of dropping courses with plans to take them the following semester are going to have to realize they can not do that at UC Berkeley and hope to leave with a diploma.</p>
<p>Thats a very real reason to reconsider berkeley . I just don’t like spending time in school I don’t need to, but a 4 semester cap isn’t fair</p>
<p>My tip would be to transfer in with the max 70 units( even if you have less then that when you transfer, you can still take up to 70 CC units, so UC transferable online classes could count for like 10 more units )</p>
<p>xviral - summer doesn’t count
leonshan - I don’t think they do have a winter. But their summer has multiple sessions that have different starting and ending dates. It’s pretty easy to have multiple classes throughout summer but only take one at a time with some overlay depending on class and session.</p>
<p>It is really not as harsh as it sounds. The problems in getting classes at CCCs, CSUs and UCs are largely confined to lower division courses in Math, Biology, Chemistry, Physics and English that have to be taken by all students in the most popular majors like Biology, Pre-med and Engineering. Junior transfers should have their lower division GE and prerequisites for their major done by the time they transfer and will only be registering for upper division courses in their major. CCCs, of course, offer no upper division courses and so far there has been little difficulty with students getting into upper division courses at the UCs and the CSUs so transfers should not have problems getting the courses they need to transfer in two years.</p>
<p>If the budget situation gets so bad that many required upper division courses will not be available every semester or even every year it could become a problem if UC Berkeley does not budge on its maximum of two years for transfer students.</p>
<p>Unless Berkeley changed it, there is a 6 semester cap for financial aid. There is a unit cap for enrollment, something like 130 units total if you are not double majoring. You can appeal, of course. They WANT you to graduate within 4 semesters, which is totally do-able outside of engineering and double majoring, but if you want to stay a 5th semester or even another year, it is possible.</p>
<p>from the berkeley college of engineering website, transfer FAQ:</p>
<p>"12. Do I have to graduate in four semesters? </p>
<p>Yes, our majors are designed for transfer students to complete in four semesters, and utilizing advising will help you to stay on track. However, if you are missing three or more lower diversion technical courses once you start at Berkeley (due to equivalents to these courses not being offered at your community college), you will be granted a fifth semester. We have this time limit because of the impacted nature of Berkeley Engineering (every student who stays an additional semester means someone else will not be admitted)."</p>
<p>they don’t say what happens if you fail to complete requirements in four/five semesters. jail?</p>
<p>If you do not finish your required courses for graduation in four, and in special cases, five semesters your enrollment at UC Berkeley is terminated and you will be required to leave without being awarded a degree. </p>
<p>I think a lot of transfer students get used to the idea in CCC that they can fail courses and retake them, withdraw from courses and retake them, take light loads and spend essentially as much time as they want doing their lower division courses. Berkeley will not tolerate that since they have calculated that if you take a full course load, do not fail any courses and do not withdraw from any courses you should be able to finish in four semesters so that is all they are going to give you to get your degree so they can accomodate as many students as possible.</p>