A question about the recommendation and, of course, a "chance me" thread.

<p>Hopefully someone can clear this up for me: (it's probably just me reading too much into it, but I would hate to screw something up and be rejected because of it.)</p>

<p>On the "Your Choice" application it says:

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Official High School Transcript</p>

<p>We must receive your Official Request for High School Transcript form and letter of recommendation by January 15 if you are applying Regular Decision, in order to consider you for admission. The letter of recommendation should be completed by your school counselor.

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<p>Now it doesn't sound like there is a form we are supposed to use (is there? "Completed" makes it sound like there might be, but "Letter" makes it sound like it should be...well, a letter. Also, I wouldn't think I could just use the common app recommendation that I already have since this is a different application.) So are we supposed to have our counselor write out a full letter? I don't really feel honest using the form for recs our school makes us fill out because we pretty much write the letter for them and all they do is copy it and sign it.</p>

<p>Also, if you all wouldn't mind, just a quick chance (for CBA):</p>

<p>Northern Minnesota Public
GPA: 3.48UW 3.49W (Seriously, weighted stuff is a joke here.)
Top 25%
Curriculum: 2/6 APS; 1/7 Honors (# Taken/# Offered); All academic classes (No gym classes, etc.)
ACT: 31 (35CR, 34E, 30S, 26M, 8 Essay); SAT: 1330 (670R, 660M)
ECs: N/A (Little did I know that they actually mattered, and now here I am. I realize this hurts my app a LOT.)</p>

<p>Thank you all for your help, hopefully I'll be accepted and see some of you next year.</p>

<p>You'll probably get some good input on the application process on this thread, but given the timing, etc. I'd send an e-mail to Fordham and ask them for clarification. And you might think about calling them early next week if you don't get a reply ... word of caution EA decisions go out next week, so the Adm Office is going to be a little busy!!</p>

<p>Chances ... your ACT puts you well into the top 25% of last years accepted class, and I suspect more than makes up for a slightly below average GPA - not as big a concern in a world of wild grade inflation IMO.</p>

<p>There has been some debate on this site if the College of Business is more difficult to get into, but not sure that has ever been clarified. Something to consider when you apply - perhaps undeclared?</p>

<p>Your bigger concern may be the rather light - okay, absence of - EC's. I think this may be resolved with a little introspection. Do you do anything in the community, church, after school, do you work? Do you look after siblings while parents work - you get the idea. But be sure not to fabricate, your dealing with folks that will read 30,000 applications - they can tell!!</p>

<p>Your essay must be filled with pasion about something. Convey how you will make a contribution to Fordham, how FU will be a better place with you in it; how you plan to go into the world, armed with a Jesuit education to make a difference.</p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

<p>Gosh I hate "Chance Me" threads. But I continue to contribute to them. My D didnt complete a Your Choice application, she used the Common App. She also applied RD rather late in the process and used the Common App teacher recommendation forms and Guidance Counselor recommendation forms. So maybe you could use those, downloaded for free off the internet, if you dont want to use your own schools forms and presuming the Your Choice application doesnt include specific forms to complete (which seems weird.) I do know that Fordham accepts the Common App and all its forms. </p>

<p>On the merits of your application, while you have not completed very many Honors or AP courses, and your GPA is good but not outstanding, you may well want to have your teachers and guidance counselor explain the rigor of your school curriculum and the grading policies. Some schools are just tough graders, while others are powder puff grade inflation factories (in my area the public schools are MUCH tougher graders and use a 7 point scale and only gives out straight A, B, C, D final marks, with no pluses or minus. The private schools are notorious for grade inflation, give out lots of plus and minus marks and they use a 10 point scale for each grade. ) If Fordham does not know your school, its imperative to give them as much information to evaluate your coursework and your level of scholarship and work ethic. Fordham generally evaluates its students on a holistic level and not just raw scores, from anecdotal reports and their own commentary (some from Peter Farrell, Fordham's Admission Director, right here on CC) I don't know for certain, however. Does that mean they axe anyone below a 3.5 gpa? I highly doubt it. In fact, some kids have been accepted in years past with lower gpa's and SAT's. For that matter, even the Ivies sometimes reach down lower on the ladder for various reasons....sometimes to be downright experimental to see how those kids perform once in college. Its a combination of wanting to know how you will do at Fordham and also an attempt at some sort of objective standard because they have to make decisions somewhere. </p>

<p>Your ACT and SAT scores are great. No EC's? That depends on circumstances. Did you belong to any Church groups you could mention? Do ANY volunteer work at all? Hold a part time job? If you still come up with a goose egg, you need to write an essay on something that you are passionate about (I concur with dad above) that conveys your GENUINE interest in something where you can make a difference in life for others. Don't write a phony essay, as they can smell those a mile away. </p>

<p>If you have any particular marks on your transcript that pulled your overall gpa down lower....for example a C or D in a subject, you may want to explain that, if it was a critical course. But never ever blame the instructor even if its true. (Schools know some teachers are better than others and some are real "bears") But if you are really rock steady and consistent then that isnt a serious problem in my view. You are top 25%, and that is good at a large public school where a lot of kids can manipulate class rank with powder puff classes. </p>

<p>I presume you are applying to Fordham College at Rose Hill (Bronx-Main campus), known as FCRH. Its the largest college in the University system. Its a great school and a lot of fun. I think you will be fine. What Fordham wants is solid kids, well balanced, hard working, strong personal ethics, and evidence you can succeed in a very competitive environment (both in school and in New York). Being from Minnesota helps as well. </p>

<p>I give you a thumbs up. Good luck.</p>