<p>I 'm attending a california community college right now, and i was wondering if i should take the few extra classes to get my AA degree. Although i plan to transfer to a UC to get my BA.</p>
<p>Is it true that people with an AA & BA, get hired before a person with just a BA? what are the benefits and drawbacks?</p>
<p>there's no benefit to an AA especially if you're going to transfer.</p>
<p>how many classes is it? i transferred with an AA and didn't have to take any other classes, but it depends on AP units and such. i think of it as, you've got an AA AND a BA while others just have a BA. i mean, degrees/certifications can only help, right?</p>
<p>sure it may help but i dont think its worht the time and effort of a few extra classes. maybe if all you had to do is fill out a form but otherwise i'd say its worhtless.</p>
<p>Well most job applications just ask you for your highest degree or level of education so once you get your BA/BS your AA really wouldn't help you. Where it would help you is if you are planning on working while you go to school. You can obviously get a better job and higher pay with a degree than without one.</p>
<p>if you are an open minded person... try listening to my view. getting your AA first before getting ur BA/BS can actually be seen as bad. when you apply to jobs and list where you went to school, technically you only want to really put where you got your bachelors/masters/phd ect. You almost never want to include an associates because some employers actually see that as a lower standard... that you transfered into a 4 year. don't get me wrong i'm a transfer student but during my job interviews for big companies i won't be bragging about how i got my associates from a community college. i would only talk about where i got my bachelors or masters. however if you only have an associates degree then of course you would want to list it on your resume.. but if you're going for a bachelors, there really is no need to get the AA. </p>
<p>i'm not trying to talk crap about people who get their AA then a bachelors.. but this is how America works. Big companies look down on people who went to community colleges, so if you plan on working for one you should do your best to try and just focus on where you got your "real" degree in a sense.</p>
<p>"Big companies look down on people who went to community colleges, so if you plan on working for one you should do your best to try and just focus on where you got your "real" degree in a sense."</p>
<p>Again your info is coming out of thin air but whatever. Companies do not discriminate against transfers the way you think they do.</p>
<p>colin has a point. i see where hes coming from...and yah it does just point out that your a transfer student and lets be real..its better for your employer to assume you got in straight out of high school</p>
<p>Well, in the "real world" you do have to do a write up of your educational background on a resume.
And in the "real world" you oftentimes have to include your University transcripts along with your resume or cv.
How can one escape an employer knowing that you went to a Community College, if it is going to be on your proper University transcript when you transfer?
Therefore, if bel0ved002 has no choice but to be a transfer student. And if they desire to knock out an AA and the go right on to University, then they are not causing themselves any harm at all.
The Community College background of most anyone will come out at some point when you are working in your desired field. It will come out either when you are looking for work (99% sure it will) or it will come out at some point in your grown adult working life when you try and go in for promotions or transfers to other offices.
How are some of you people who were unable to go right to University after high school for either financial or academic reasons (no blessed offense intended) going to explain to a potential employer that you magically earned a BA in two years? You are going to have to cop to your Community College background, and it is best to be honest.
No employer is going to mind if someone earned a AA and then went right on to University.
Just like how no employer is going to mind if someone earned an AAS in a technical field.</p>
<p>as unrealistic as it sounds, Colin is pretty much right. Companies DO look down on transfers from community college, though its not that bad. One reason i choose to go to a UC and transfer vs community college was precisely this. My mentor told me that HR does discriminate against this.</p>
<p>I disagree, generally.</p>
<p>But I think we all know this by now. </p>
<p>Totally not doing that again. </p>
<p>/And really. If you're already at the CC, and you're a few units away from the AA, GET IT. Having an AA WILL NOT HURT YOU. It might not help necessarily, but no one is going to see that you have an AA and deny you a job. I just don't think that being a transfer is that detrimental to your life post college. I know A LOT of people who've done amazing things post graduation as transfers. I don't know ANYONE who was denied anything because of it. Take that however you wish.</p>
<p>//I guess I got into it. But I'm done now. Really.</p>
<p>I agree that the AA will help you out while going to school, if you want to work/have a better job than most. Just go for it if its not too much out of your way. And if it is true that employers look down on it, dont even mention it. All they really care about is the higher degree.</p>
<p>"I just don't think that being a transfer is that detrimental to your life post college."</p>
<p>It isn't. </p>
<p>As long as you cop to it and own it, then no one is going to mind a great deal. </p>
<p>Employers look at your progression with schooling and with jobs you had while earning your schooling.</p>
<p>You guys who are soo hard up over on the West Coast are really lucky IMHO. In the South, people really do not understand the concept of transferring all too much. People do not understand why someone was unable to graduate high school and go on to University and you have to work things extra hard at job interviews to explain that. That is when going far out of your way with regards to having paper copies of your transcript and a form verifying you attended the school come into play.
That sort of thing would have to come into play to some extent on the West Coast as well, since most of you guys transfer.
No one is going to think any of you got out of University in two years flat if the norm is to transfer.</p>
<p>The point is that you have to be honest with your educational history when you are applying for work, because you will be asked about it and you will have to show some proof of it in the form of transcripts and whatnot.
Trust me on this.</p>
<p>No one is going to look down upon anyone who desired to knock out an AA prior to going on to University.</p>
<p>whos who mind dont matter and those who matter dont mind</p>
<p>^
***?!</p>
<p>uhhh</p>
<p>How many of you actually work for a big company right now? LOL
I think you might be overthinking this whole process. I am not going to get in this long thing again but I think once you guys actually get your first job you will realize that it is not as it now seems. Also for someone who mentioned transfering within your work they do not pull up your transcripts...your would be new boss interviews you and makes the desicion. I have never been asked for transcripts or met anybody who has been asked in order to get a job. If anything they would look at your work history since you have been with the company. Also once you have your BA/BS nobody and I repeat NOBODY will care about what you did in highschool. LOL ok this went on longer than I wanted it too but I am just trying to shed some light on the real world.</p>
<p>Sweetny007 </p>
<p>You are 22?! </p>
<p>I am 32 and, for most of the jobs I have had in my life, I have always been asked to provide a history of my higher education in the most concrete of forms.
When I applied for a really humble job (like, a second job for extra money type of thing) a while back, I got tore up over not including a verifiable educational history along with my application.</p>
<p>I (just this past Thursday) recently was fortunate enough to obtain a nice professional job at Fed Ex Headquarters and I had to submit copies of all of my University transcripts along with scads other things.
That is what one would call a big company. I am very proud to have landed a job in Advertising with them. If it were not for the fact that I obeyed their hiring procedures, I would not be starting work there the week after next.</p>
<p>One of my younger brothers works for a big publishing firm and when he did a transfer, he had to submit a CV with proof of educational history. </p>
<p>But, then again, these are real world examples a grown adult is making Sweetny007.</p>
<p>The point is, if you care to think in these terms, honesty is the best policy. Some of the threads which pertain to lying in this area of the web site are started by people who are never going to amount to diddly squat anyway.</p>
<p>Merlin, honesty is the best policy. I don't disagree there. What I am disagreeing with is that starting at a community college will hurt your job prospects or somehow stop you from transfering between positions. Yes I am 22 but I am already in my choosen profession. My husband is 35 and he has never been asked for transcripts regardless of the fact that he is now a director. My uncle who now owns his own company was never asked for transcripts when becoming a CPA. He was asked for gpa and a degree. These of course are just a few examples. Success is not determined by high school. Some people just get too paranoid about highschool affecting their whole life. I guess I must be magic because I have not been subject to this kind of discrimination. LOL Honestly people are allowed to think whatever they want. I guess I am just glad that most of the things that are being talked about here are not true in my life.</p>
<p>"People do not understand why someone was unable to graduate high school and go on to University and you have to work things extra hard at job interviews to explain that. "</p>
<p>Who said transfers didn't graduate from high school?</p>
<p>LOL a Dr. Seuss quote!!!! </p>
<p>btw its those who mind, not whos</p>
<p>Sweetny, I believe the high school thing was meant to be phrased as why someone can't go to a university immediately after high school, not that transfers don't graduate hs. </p>
<p>But anyway, I don't think anyone here asserted that it would be wise to be anything but honest about one's educational history. There's really no reason not to be honest because, as I've said, transferring just isn't that big of a deal. If anything, it positively shows initiative and drive and everything else. </p>
<p>"No one is going to think any of you got out of University in two years flat if the norm is to transfer."- I don't really understand what you mean. Transferring is not the norm, it's just one of several options. And technically transfers DO get out of university in 2 years (on average). But no one is going to apply for a job and show that they did two years at a university and try to say that they didn't transfer or that they were only ever students at that university. I don't know where you got that from. </p>
<p>However, I don't necessarily agree that providing transcripts is the norm. It depends entirely on the employer.</p>