<p>carolinewho12, many BA/MD programs require the SATII Chem specifically, although requirements will vary between programs. Some may allow you to substitute another science SATII, while others will only allow the Chem.</p>
<p>Does UMKC a rather easy-admitted school? Is it good? I've checked out "The Princeton Review: Complete Book of Colleges" and the book said its selectivity rating is 60/100, which is the lowest rating. OMG. I'm just afraid I have spent 6 yrs and finally granted an unrecognized degree. </p>
<p>And BTW, I think everybody has missed out VCU(Virginia Commonwealth University). It also offers 8 yrs combined program. And it doesn't require SATII, recommendation and etc. The most important thing is that it is accredited.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>Definitely not. UMKC is one of the two established 6-year programs (besides Penn State) that accepts in-state and out-of-state students. I didn't end up matriculating there, but from my impression of the school and from the fact that I have a friend who is currently there, the program is laid on a solid foundation. What makes UMKC unique is its docent rotation program that allows students to receive early exposure to medical training along with classes, during both first and second years. And though the curriculum is said to be tough, how can you possibly beat a no-MCAT guarantee? </p>
<p>UMKC and other 6-year programs may be ranked lower because they may be biased towards the SCHOOL rather than the program. I'm sure Brown and Northwestern are ranked higher as programs more because of their status as undergraduate institutions than because of stipulations in the program.</p>
<p>As for this fear about getting a degree that won't be recognized, I'll assure you that UMKC has a very noble status among residencies since they realize that the program's graduates already have exposure to medical training (which undoubtedly comes in handy during the interviews). I hope this answered a few questions.</p>
<p>Anyone know how many people applied to HPME this year?</p>
<p>I spoke to an admission officer at the Illinois Institute of Technology, and BS/MD program won't be available for the 06-07 school year.</p>
<p>I think that they have a BS/DO program, though. I'm not sure.</p>
<p>As for HMPE... I'm not sure.</p>
<p>Does anybody know the programs that are available in Illinois. I know that UIC has their GPPA and Northwestern's HPME, but is there programs for schools like University of Chicago or Loyola Chicago?</p>
<p>dude a BS/DO program is a waste of time. If you have somewhat decent grades in undergrad, you will definitely get into DO schools.</p>
<p>Illinois Institute of Technology offers 2 programs.
<a href="http://www.iit.edu/admission/undergrad/programs/specprog/%5B/url%5D">http://www.iit.edu/admission/undergrad/programs/specprog/</a></p>
<p>I also found this program description, although I'm not sure if it's still being run, or if it's the same as one of the prorams listed in the above link.
[quote=<a href="http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/%5DFinch">http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/]
Finch</a> University Health Sciences/The Chicago Medical School (FUHS) and Illinois Institute of Technology (IIT) (8 year program) Guaranteed acceptance into medical school after matriculating into the program. MCAT must be taken but no bearing on acceptance, 3.25 minimum GPA must be maintained while at IIT. Contact phone number: 312-567-3025
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<p>Loyola University Chicago offers an Early Assurance program, but that's different from the BS/MD programs offered elsewhere since you would apply to it during your sophomore year of college.</p>
<p>Are the IIT programs really tough to get into?</p>
<p>Probably not, though not many people apply to IIT's program. Of course, you still have to consider that is IS (was) a BS/MD program so there'd still be some degree of selectivity.</p>
<p>ok so what would the difference of difficulty be in getting accepted to say northwesterns HPME, UIC's GPPA, IIT's programs, or just getting into northwestern's undergrad or some school like UIUC</p>
<p>IIT stopped their accelerated med program, just to let you all know...I called them to ask if it was true, and they said yeah....</p>
<p>i'm invited for intervus in their medical programs. Any tips from the current HPME or BU medical program students for the interview?</p>
<p>h2md1</p>
<p>wowww good luck!
btw, i saw this site that was posted about a year ago here: <a href="http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/%5B/url%5D">http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/</a>
idk if its just really outdated or is this true: SAT score for entering applicants[for Rice/Baylor] was between 1330-1490...
is it just a lot lower than other programs like the psu/jefferson one because its 8 yr, not 7 yr?
or do they care a lot more about gpa/ec's etc. than sats..</p>
<p>I was wondering the same thing, stillajun--</p>
<p>I think the Rice/Baylor program looks for different things as opposed to the other programs. The 8yr/7yr difference could have a factor. I don't know the difficulty level at PSU/Jefferson, but at Northwestern, completing premed requirements and everything else in 3 years is very tough and therefore HPME only selects the candidates with the best chance of succesfully completing this program on top of gpa, ec's, etc.. So the difference in SAT averages between the two programs makes sense.</p>
<p>Does anyone know anything about the Vanderbilt ENGAGE program? I understand that it's fairly new but besides the basics, I know very little about it. Would anyone care to talk about how it's different/same from the typical early acceptance to medical school program? </p>
<p>For example, comparing/contrasting Rice/Baylor with ENGAGE.</p>
<p>which one is the hardest to get into?
which one si the easiest to get into?
ANd are these ba/md programs truly worth it?
Is it better to just take the MCAT and get into med school.</p>
<p>The easiest to get into are probably the ones that require the MCAts even though you're in the program (like the Drexel programs). The hardest to get into are the "rated" prestigious programs such as Brown and Northwestern. Are the programs worth it. Definitely, as long as you know you want to be an MD. Of course if you're brilliant, well rounded etc. and are considering one of these programs or say Harvard, that gets more complicated but even here there are those who get into the most prestigious Ivy League colleges who opt for the BA/MD programs.</p>
<p>i was wondering if anybody knew the match stats for the UMKC 6 year med program. from what i saw online, most of the people applying to residencies in primary care (general, peds, internal) got into great places...but in the other fields, not so hot. does anybody know if the program has an emphasis on primary care physicians? how many of teh students get their 1st or 2nd match?</p>