Uh-oh, will this thread decline into the usual ill will? My kid doesn’t stand a chance because… Some may feel that way, but admissions is complex and hinges on your record and your application.
It’s a well written article, right touch. Good people can offer genuine congrats and move forward.
Because he got rejected by every Ivy and elite school he applied to - so many like him out there unfortunately for him. But he is very happy where he is going… And the common app makes it so much easier for the many like him apply - competition is fierce. I didn’t say because she was black, but because she has more diversity than my son obviously, perhaps race being one thing that sets her apart from my kid. This Asian girl NewHavenCTmom speaks of may have some outstanding qualities as well. She just speaks so much of her amazing, accomplished daughter - well there are alot of amazing, accomplished kids - not all got into Ivies and they will do just fine - its not the be all end all thank god…
@streetcred @lookingforward @austinmshauri @collegebound52
When streetcred uses the word deserves, it makes me feel uncomfortable. It hints of entitlement. Which I absolutely hate. DD has worked her ass off for almost 4 years. But nothing was guaranteed. Each and every acceptance was a blessing. Brown said no and rejected her. Did she deserve to be there? Apparently not. She wasn’t what they wanted. Her stats, ECs, essays were not Brown quality. So be it.
We did not go into the admissions cycle assuming that she deserved a golden ticket. Having that mind set is a recipe for disaster. It’s also in poor taste to assume that your son lost his spot to my dd. So nice of you to assume that her black skin makes her inferior.
I think it hints of that same thing I harp on- the idea your hs record, standing, respect, (in that small context of your high school, its standards and those peers,) are all it takes to impress an adcom at a most selective college. (As if it were some competition for “student of the year” or NHS.)
The “lookback” in an admissions review does show a kid’s drives and follow through. But the application and supp are then where he presents himself, more about his vision, perspective and other factors the college needs to see. (And I keep saying, the killer to worry about is geo diversity.)
NHCTmom, it’s been clear to me, all along, that you didn’t “assume” anything for your girl, that you were preparing her to take on the challenge as wisely as she could. And that both of you would take the results and move forward with strength. That, to me, is very wise. Yay for her and best wishes.
But really, we also need to say yay for all the kids embarking on this next phase- moving forward is what matters.
Sorry NewHavenCTmom- did I SAY she got in because she was black? NOPE… DIVERSITY IS WHAT I SAID - YOU brought in the race card commenting about the "Asian’ girl - did you have to mention she was Asian? YOU are saying how hard your daughter worked - My son and I’m sure everyone elses child who strives for IVY’s deserves to be there if they are in in the top 5% and giving it their all. From all your boasting about her and her accomplishments it would be really interesting to see if you had the same opinion if she were rejected. YOU make it sound like your daughter deserves to be going to Yale more than this ‘Asian’ girl – With a Mom like you I think not bragging and putting down the ‘Asian’ girl I think not… PEACE OUT!!!
No. You kept it classy and said that they want “diversity”. Lol but okay. I can’t read between the lines.
“DD is in the top 5% of her class! amazing Ecs that are very unique, rigorous/interesting summer experiences each summer, amazing LORs that brought tears to my eyes, great ACT SCORES, she took a rigorous course load, doubling up on sciences, language and math for 3 years. Dual enrollment at our local state college, lots of awards…”
Blah Blah Blah , all of our kids have these stats - i know mine does but i’m not rubbing it in anyone’s face and criticizing another kid based on their race -THAT is racists - THAT is what you appear to be. BTW, I have a nephew who is black that I adore so I AM NOT A RACIST…
Okay. It doesn’t make any difference if you are or are not. It’s fine.
So you can’t respond to why you signalled out the girl as 'Asian"? Didn’t think so . Thank Jesus your daughter is the humble one in your family :))
@streetcred you are being very immature and insulting. Please stop. You are criticizing them and you are no better than those who believe they shouldn’t have gotten in. You sound entitled. OP mentioned being black because that is why kids thought she got in, but OP was arguing that that isn’t necessarily true. Your insults are not appreciated.Op also did not criticize anyone based on their race.
I just reread your post. A girl tells my dd that she was only admitted to Yale because she is a black quota & I’m the racist? Not sure how you made that leap…Lol again, okay…whatever you say!
Yow, streetcred. What do you think elite admissions is really about? Kid X and every other top performer in every hs out there should get an auto admit? After all, they were good in hs? From 13-17? No one needs to vet them or match them?
As many longer-time posters will tell you, this isn’t “rack 'em and stack 'em.”
@NewHavenCTmom ignore streetcred, they are just one of those bitter parents you are speaking of who thinks their kid is entitled. Congrats to your daughter and good luck in her future!
Because the Asian population has a huge sense of entitlement when it comes to college admissions. You know that as well as I do. It mattered because it was relevant to what we discuss here on CC. My daughter “beat” her at her own “I deserve everything” game. Again, your opinion doesn’t matter.
Man, this is an unfortunate thread all around. I wish ppl would stop categorizing ppl who belong to a particular race, whether they’re black, Asian, white or Martian.
The truth is that the vast majority of the kids applying to the ivies and other top 30 schools have amazing credentials, on par with those of newhavenctmom’s daughter, and most will be rejected. Schools indicate whether they take into consideration racial/ethnic status on their common data sets (Yale, for instance, checks that it does consider such status). But clearly, regardless of that status, the kid needs the goods to get in. And more than that, they need to seem like a good fit/match for the school, which is perhaps why newhavenctmom’s D didn’t get into brown. (My own S1 was rejected by Dartmouth but accepted to uchicago, brown and penn, and truthfully, I understood that decision bc he wasn’t really at all a match for Dartmouth. He was an artsy, STEM, intellectual kid who didn’t party at all in high school, and would have been a fish out of water at Dartmouth.)
Life is too short to live with bitterness. We should all just be happy for each other and move on, but move on with some compassion for the kids who didn’t get in. Most of them worked very hard and they’re understandably disappointed.
As an aside: Newhavenctmom, one of your daughter’s biggest assets was your support. You managed her college process from freshman year onward as well as Michelle Hernandez would have. Kudos to you…i admire how hard you worked on her behalf learning all you could from this site and implementing it. I also remember how frustrated you were on our parent thread when she didn’t open up her ACT book, but clearly she knocked it out of the park! Congrats to you and to her!
People always say “oh you don’t know the whole application”
The young man who got into all the ivy league schools released his main essay. It was no doubt well written, but it was far from special. It was trite, and I’ve read many better ones from my fellow classmates.
xyscholar - so now you are saying that since you read the essay, you can make a judgment about the student’s suitability as a student at an Ivy League school? Man, you should call up the admissions offices at all these top schools and let them know you’re available, since you can make a judgment based on some information released to the media.
^ Didn’t mean for that to come off so harshly. Some of the comments on here just got my dander up. I like Renaissancemom’s idea: to just be happy for others and move on.
Been following this thread closely, as my AA daughter has been accepted to Penn, class of 2018. The assumptions people make here are startling, especially the supposition that the ivies are somehow choosing their classes poorly. If that were the case, we’d see media headlines regarding the struggle of these “lesser-than” students at elite institutions. I believe the outcome is quite the opposite, and the underrepresented chosen few are as successful and their peers. Obviously the schools see something quite worthy in their selection.
There are still roughly 7 white/non-Hispanic/non-Asian kids for every black kid at Yale and Asian kids outnumber blacks by a margin of 2 1/2 to 1 despite making up a far smaller percentage of the US population. Just sayin’…
<a href=“http://oir.yale.edu/sites/default/files/CDS2013_2014.pdf”>http://oir.yale.edu/sites/default/files/CDS2013_2014.pdf</a>