<p>Ok, for out of state AEM and the college of arts am I still competitive early decision with these stats? (Please tell me otherwise, I'll have more motivation to study for the upcoming ACT)
P.S. Yes, I know a 30 is the average for Cornell, but this site makes me confused about these averages.</p>
<p>ACT: 30 (groan...my psat was worse)
GPA: 3.9+ UW 4.5+ W (very rigorous course load top 5% of class)
EC's:
communitey serive 150+ hours
2 Varsity Sports
many regional/several state/a few national awards for various (2-4) ec's.</p>
<p>your ACT is perfectly fine. you have to realize that the people on CC can be really really big overachievers, complaining with a 35. you dont have to take it again</p>
<p>If it makes u feel better i am applyin with a 30 (I did not submit SATs...and since i am applyin to ILRand using ACT Ididnot have to submit SATIIs either).</p>
<p>Your ACT is fine. There's no harm in retaking it though, because you only have to report your highest score. Just make sure you continue to take the most challenging classes and if you are intersted in AEM you might want to think about taking AP Calc your senior year if you havent already. Good luck.</p>
<p>not sure what ur basing ur conversion on but there is no current accurate conversion for act-sat. collegeboard is conducting a study now to update their conversion table that is over 10 years old.</p>
<p>I would think that the percentiles given in the ACT report are an accurate representation of the distribution of ACT scores. In 2007 a score of 30 was in the 96.17 percentile. Although the College Board conversion chart is very outdated, some schools like the University of CAlifornia have issued their own charts which, at least, provide some guidance. A 30 is converted on that chart to a 1360-1390, without writing.</p>
<p>OP: your ACT is good. However, since you have enough time to retake it, I see no reason for not retaking it. (I would say that if you had 35 points as well, so I really DO think your result is good.)</p>
<p>I personally can say that the ACT/SAT conversion table seems to be quite good to me. When I convert my ACT score into an SAT score, I get the EXACT SAME score that I actually got in my SAT, and vice versa. This is just a personal example and others might get completely different results, but for me the table works just fine.</p>
<p>i just randomly googled act to sat conversion scale and all of them seem to be the same. i agree with Dr. Avrah; i converted my score and it was about the same.</p>
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<p>Sure there is, its the same one that's been in use for 10+ years, and still used by most colleges. Don't forget, that schools still don't know what to do with the new Writing, so they just kinda eyeball it. Moreover, CB has plenty of data to convince the world that the new CR is statistically the same as the old CR. [btw: the SAT-ACT percentiles have been different since the Concordance table was first developed.]</p>
<p>In any event, Cornell's median ACT score range is 28-32, based on its CDS. Thus, the OP is right near the median with a 30. However, there is no doubt that bumping that score to a 32+ (75%) would be a help for admissions. Since ACT offers score choice, there is no reason not to retake, save the $41.50 and 4 hours on a Saturday morning.</p>
<p>btw: on another thread, you mentioned that you recieved a 25 on the English section. Some colleges do look at English + Math subsections, others look only at composite. I don't know what Cornell does, but that 25 jumps out as low for a school like Cornell. With a little practice, perhaps you can get that one score up a few points, and your composite as well. Good luck.</p>
<p>actually there is no ACCURATE conversion. the data is too old. thats why ACT is conducting a study on concordance to be released sometime in 2008. obviously someone believes the data is at least outdated and possibly inaccurate.
heres the link to this: ACT</a> Writing Test : Concordance Issues</p>
<p>ACT of 30 in itself won't be the deciding factor in whether or not you will get accepted. However, 30 is on the lower end of average accepted students esp. in AEM's competitive applicant pool. Thus, it wouldn't hurt to have a higer ACT score.</p>
<p>trackdude: go run some laps, bcos you are incorrect. :D</p>
<p>ALL colleges have their own conversion tables, which differ minimally from the 10 year-old concodance table. Whether the table is old or whether you feel it is out of date, is not relevant -- that's the table being used by colleges today -- if you don't beleive it, just ask 'em. </p>
<p>As I posted earlier, the % differentials have been around since the concordance table was first published. Indeed, I posted the same issue back in '05 when I joined cc. Regardless, it is what it is.</p>
<p>30 ACT is the middle 50% for Cornell. If your other stats are at or above the middle 50%, you're fine. If your other stats are low, then you should retake to make it look better.</p>