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<p>Umm does anyone know like the average act score for the University of Michigan?
I just scored a 28 and was wondering if that is close to the average?</p>

<p>well I got in with a 28 for engineering… but I’m a URM, so you never know.</p>

<p>But you def have time to try again.</p>

<p>I got into engineering with a 29… If you’re applying to engineering all they’re going to care about is what you got on Math and Science. I live in Ann Arbor though, so the standards are easier for us.</p>

<p>I didn’t get in with a 35, if that says anything.</p>

<p>I heard average was around 26-29</p>

<p>average is about 29. i’ve seen people get in with 26+ as long as your gpa makes up for it.</p>

<p>i called up to an the admissions office, and they said they like to see a 28( also, at least a 28 on math for engineering)</p>

<p>Well, it seems as if this year they are accepting many more people with lower GPA’s and test scores than in years past. Either they are accepting more people or they are putting more emphasis on the extracurriculars/other aspects of your application.</p>

<p>Ignore the poster who said “I heard the average is 26 - 29.”
If you look at the school’s site you will note that 28 is the lower 25th percentile of admitted students - so it would not be “average”. Admits with a 26 are downright rare. Your actual ACT results will show you where you fall in the U of M spectrum if you put that it was a school you were considering. 30 - 32 is considered a more competitive score if accompanied by a strong GPA, good recs, etc., but as another poster noted, will not guarantee an admission. You may wish to consider working hard to raise it a little, but know that the GPA is given more weight (and needs to be VERY strong).</p>

<p>^^Are you on the admissions board? I have seen MANY people get in with low GPA’s and average test scores or the other way around. Just look at these boards!</p>

<p>These boards are not a statistical representation, nor is an outfit like college data. All you have to do is review actual statistical representation of the student body and note what percentile a particular score will land you in to get a quantitative sense of chance (which is not to say a concrete chance : ).
What these boards CANNOT represent is the full formula and the relative rigor of the schools and the weight that same gives to an application. I personally know “several” students from a gifted-talented program with GPAs in the 3.6 - 3.7 unweighted neighborhood who were both accepted and received scholarships at U of M. However, those students represent statistically the bottom 20th percentile of the student body by GPA alone (but obviously were stellar students). However, their school is of outstanding rigor. So I am not saying that a 28 ACT is not within the application range. I am saying it certainly does not represent the upper percentile of likely admits in the historic range of admitted student statistics. </p>

<p>So, to me, your anecdotal evidence of “many” from this board is not especially meaningful.</p>

<p>^^A 3.2 GPA at a stellar high school and a 4.0 GPA at a mediocre high school are probably viewed the same way. To make such broad generalizations about GPA cutoffs and ACT cutoffs is ridiculous. Everyone’s circumstances are different, every high school is different, everyone’s talents are different, everyone’s majors are different.</p>

<p>To just say “well, 3.6 is out” is foolish, at best. You don’t know if they are in the most challenging program at their school or if they took Special ed classes.</p>

<p>You just cause worry in people when you make huge generalizations.</p>

<p>I remember people like you telling me “well, a 3.67 GPA is too low for Berkeley” and guess what, I got in. I went to a really good high school, and had amazing extracurriculars. YOU JUST DON’T KNOW!!! Passing yourself off as an expert on admissions and GPA is extremely annoying.</p>

<p>I am sorry if I am offending you, but I use to listen to people like you with such authority, worry myself, and doubt myself. One day, I realized that people like you are not on the admissions board and have no clue what the board is looking for in applicants.</p>

<p>Haha, alright guys thanks for your replies.
I have around a 3.85 gpa and lots of other stuff.
So I mean i’ll think about it and take the act again in June if I have to.</p>

<p>So engineering looks mostly at math and science?
What about ross or lsa?</p>

<p>Ross puts focus on things a lot different, and LSA gives more equal consideration to all parts.</p>

<p>ES – I am betting you’re not a math major because you seem to have entirely missed my point in referencing widely known statistics. I was not at all making sweeping generalizations (unlike certain posters who’s handle starts with ES re “many students with poor GPAs”). On the contrary, I was referring to the statistical data available on U of M’s site WHILE NOTING that it is at the same time qualitative by giving an example that is CONTRARY to what the statistics suggest. I am wondering if you have read the evaluation form that the admission committees and paid readers use to evaluate a candidate as an admit/high admit etc? The reason for citing the statistics and telling the OP to review same is because it seems more helpful to assist someone with the known parameters so they can determine their own ‘fit’ instead of saying one way or another whether or not that individual is a fit, which of course, we can’t know from ANYTHING they might post here (except perhaps a completed application!) So, whether you noticed or not, we’re arguing the same side of the coin. Perhaps you should read more carefully before you mis-characterize what a poster is saying.</p>

<p>OP - that form I referenced is available for review on the U of M admission section of the website. It is worth your review.</p>

<p>Oh…
Woa certain majors look at different parts??
Because I got a 35 in the math section and a 28 in science if that helps with anything…</p>

<p>Kigg - some programs look at specific areas. For example, engineering is most interested in a strong math baseline given the level of math study in ENG. So your 35 would be very well received at the school of engineering. Or the school of music’s technology program, for example, sets a baseline of ACT Math at 28 for students wanting to pursue sound engineering (because they have to take calc and comp sci). In that specific case, you <em>must</em> have a 28 in math to eligible for that curriculum.</p>

<p>Apart from your statistics, the other consideration that makes a big difference on actual admission is how early you apply. Because it’s rolling admissions, it becomes more difficult or at least more competitive to be accepted if you apply after the Nov 1 early response deadline. Early response is not binding, so there’s no reason NOT to apply early, and everything to gain in terms of scholarships etc. if you do apply early.
Hope that helps.</p>

<p>Why not ask Michigan? This is what they have on their website:
[Office</a> of Undergraduate Admissions: About Michigan](<a href=“http://www.admissions.umich.edu/about/]Office”>Explore & Visit | University of Michigan Office of Undergraduate Admissions)</p>

<p>“2008 Freshman Class Profile:

Middle 50th Percentile of the Admitted Class:
ACT Composite 28-32”</p>

<p>(mid-50% ACT was 27-31 for the enrolled class of 2007)</p>

<p>For the College of Engineering:
[Michigan</a> Engineering | Student Profile](<a href=“http://www.engin.umich.edu/about/studentprofile.html]Michigan”>http://www.engin.umich.edu/about/studentprofile.html)</p>

<p>“For admitted freshman class of 2008 -
Median HS GPA (UW): 3.9
Median ACT: 31
Median SAT: 1440”</p>

<p>Its 28-32
(you can look at the offical website)</p>