<p>um… the last few advice classes just kinda died out… and since my orientation will be soon (international orientation), would jsut like to ask some questions before going there.</p>
<li><p>If I’m placed out of 115 and 116 math already, should i go straight ahead and take 215math? or should i at least retake 116 to review the materials then move on to 215 the second term?</p></li>
<li><p>i kind of asked this last time, do you think its advisable/reasonable for a freshman first term to take 300 level classes? (thinking of 300 level econ and/or stats classes) (i guess 400 is out of the question?)</p></li>
<li><p>should one look into freshman seminar? (im just not sure how these seminars function)</p></li>
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<p>2.) I took stats 350 during my first semester of freshman year, and it was fine. However, I have no clue about a 300-level econ class as I've never taken one.</p>
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<li><p>I find that Math at umich is kinda funky. My 115 teacher was horrible, but I've heard other stories. What are you registered for now? You can go to a couple of classes and see how the pace is and how well you can keep up. You can always switch (before the deadline of course).</p></li>
<li><p>How much do you like Econ? It pretty much depends on how much you're interested in the material and how well you think you can do. Stats 350 is a 300 level class, but its also intro to stats. I had no problems taking upper level history classes because I love history. Econ 401 was tough as nails but it was also my best class. Econ 401 does require a lot of time. You need to do the homework, go to office hours, go to review groups, and do the readings (note that I didnt say lecture because kuhn sucked..i dozed off a lot). For first term I don't know if its advisable since your adjusting to college life. But **** it, if you think you can do it, then do it.</p></li>
<li><p>TAKE FRESHMAN SEMINARS. Easy A's and it's the only time that you can take them. I took a music seminar, UC 150-Music in our lives. Pretty much we sat and listened to the professor talk about music and what kind of music he liked for the first half of the course. The second half involved student projects where we do a presentation on music that we liked. The only homework is to attend 3 concerts, two of which has to be classical, and write a music review on it. Easy A and course which I didn't have to think about really. the way my seminar functioned was that it was just a feel of a smaller class and more intimate.</p></li>
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<p>This is also where AP credits come in handy. My seminar class could only hold about 20ish people, and on the first day I swear twice that amount showed up hoping to get off the wait list. I had a lot of credits from AP and registered earlier than most other freshman and snagged a spot.</p>
<p>Freshman seminars are easy courses that are designed to ease your transition to college, however, they will use up your free elective hours.</p>
<p>This is not a problem if you don't change majors. However, if you change majors, you may need to use the free electives hours for some of the courses credits that you have taken for your old major that do not apply to your new major.</p>
<p>I agree with cherrybarry. A review will be a waste of time. A lot of kids I know retook AP-level courses for review (esp. chemistry and calculus), and it even hurt their GPA. And also, MATH 215 doesn't need MATH 116. It only requires MATH 115 skills.</p>
<p>iollloi: i havent choosen the classes yet, international orientation is around the corner though..</p>
<p>yeh, im thinking of taking stats 350... seems like a good balance between a challenging class but not at a very high level.. im actually plannig to transfer into the business school duirng soph year, but do kind of have some interset in econ... kinds of want to take 401, but think it might be too mcuh for the first semester, afterall ill probably need some time to adjust coming from so far..but i also cant seem to find any appropriate econ classes to take so far... i think theres the 395(dont bother to check it again... ) something about strategy that looks interesting actually.... </p>
<p>i tot the math sequence was 115-116-215 o.o or maybe i just misread it... im just scared it might be hard cuz i realy have no clue what kind of standards it is ... i got a 6 in the IB higher level math for anyone that knows.. hm.. i guess ill just take it and if its too hard.. drop it or something...</p>
<p>hm.. i think ill be looking into freshman seminars as well.. seriously doesnt find much stuff that interest me... by the way.. are the lsa course catalog the only classes you can choose from? i really cant seem to find any classes you can take for 'fun' (as in a fun and interesting class) ... maybe im not looking into it correctly...</p>
<p>Take math 215, or 285 if you can get in. You'll get absolutely nothing out of "reviewing" calc II except maybe a bad grade because you'll be bored by the ease of everything and then screwed by the curve.</p>
<p>Stats 350 is somewhat misleadingly labeled, since there aren't very many low-numbered statistics courses. Stats 100 covers the most basic descriptive statistics, then there's Stats 265 for engineers, and then Stats 350 is the next statistics course. It's required for a lot of majors, and doesn't cover very advanced material. From what I saw in the course guide last year, it didn't look like it covers much of anything beyond AP statistics, but is still a slightly "tough" class due to the large number of people who take it and the associated curve.</p>
<p>Econ 401 requires some kind of multi-variable calculus as a prereq. If you're taking it concurrently, that should be fine, but I wouldn't recommend it if you're not real strong in math. My friends who took it last year said that the homework seemed like endless busywork, but if you're going into econ you'll have to do it eventually. If you're worried about having to adjust and whatnot, then Econ 398 would probably be better (though the lecture is damn early).</p>
<p>In general, the university says you shouldn't do 300-400 level classes as a freshmen, but if you know that you're capable you can just ignore them. I think I broke that "rule" 6 times last year.</p>
<p>So, sophomore standing freshman do get to register before other freshman? Yay. AP credits and other college credits from high school rock! How do I know when I can register for next term? Mass email?</p>
<p>homework seems like busy work because you have no ****ing clue how to do it. you wrestle with it, get frustrated with it and then in discussion the gsi breaks it down nicely.</p>
<p>Go straight to calc 3, almost no good can come from retaking Math 116. For all intensive purposes, Stats 350 is a freshmen-level class. I never took a freshmen seminar, but I hear they are good.</p>
<p>If you want to take econ, most 300-level courses are a waste of time. 398 may be an exception to that, but it's just a watered-down version of 409. 398 is easy enough for a freshman to take, but if you ever want to do serious game theory, it would be a waste because you'd have to take 409 and they'd take your 398 credit away. However, if you just want an easy background in it, then 398 is a good class. I'd take stats 350 because it's pretty easy and will give you a leg up in life pretty much. It's definitely not as hard as the number makes it out to be. Also, taking a seminar would be a pretty good idea. Small class, good discussions, interesting topics, easy A. Nuff said.</p>
<p>chinaismine, for all "intensive purposes" is not an error when I'm referring specifically to the intensity of a class. Please pay attention to the context when trying to make corrections.</p>
<p>Both of them should be fine. Personally, I'm not a fan of the seminars, so unless there's one on a topic you're really interested in, I'd go with the second one. I got into an Honors seminar last year that was about "Comedy for a Digital World" and sounded really cool, but dropped it after we met for the first time because the class was horrible.</p>
<p>hm.. i guess ill go with my second 'combo' if the schedule allows then, dont seem to find a seminar that interests me a lot. hope it wont be tooooo much for the first semester..</p>