ADVICE NEEDED: To transfer or not to transfer

Hello all,

I’m looking for some advice on whether to begin applying to colleges as a transfer student. Ideally, I would be asking for this from friends and family, not seeking answers from strangers, but I don’t quite feel comfortable doing that quite yet. I have always equated being unhappy with one’s college with a “failure” of sorts, in that I failed at my first opportunity to select the right college for me. I don’t want my family and friends to think I have “failed” unless I can propose a definitive remedy, i.e. transferring schools. Maybe my unhappiness could be solved by transferring schools; maybe it is a more general feeling of malaise with the educational establishment.

I just finished my freshman year at Kenyon College. Of the colleges that accepted me, Kenyon was neither most highly ranked nor was it a personal favorite. Both those honors go to the University of Chicago. But Kenyon gave me a very generous financial aid package (merit- and need-based), so I decided that, in the words of Kenyon founder Philander Chase, “This will do.” I did not love my two semesters here, but I did not hate them either. Here are my good and bad experiences sorted into a list.

THE GOOD:
*The professors: All my professors were not only brilliant but also interested in my well-being. Very accessible and friendly.
*The political environment: Kenyon has not seemingly bought into the message of “political correctness” as some other schools have (at least based on newspaper headlines). Students and faculty here are quite open to free expression, and I find this very important.
*Student activities: I have grown to love the activities I do on campus, especially student newspaper and community service. (But these activities are by no means unique to Kenyon.)

THE BAD:
*Making friends: Throughout high school, I had thought I would finally outgrow my social awkwardness once in college. I blamed my relative lack of high school friends on being one of the few gay students at a very conservative high school. I thought this would all change in college. But it didn’t. I ended my freshman year with only three or so close friends. There are certainly many people I greet when passing on campus, but very few with whom I feel comfortable engaging in extended conversation.
*Student culture: Possibly a good portion of my social isolation stems from the student culture at Kenyon. There is definitely a “work hard, play hard” mentality here. Thought students do work very hard in the classroom, it seems that all that academic interest flies out the window on weekends. The weekends are filled with parties which make me feel uncomfortable attending (crowded spaces, too many people I don’t know, etc.). I have yet to find a group of people who would actually want to talk about “important things” outside the classroom. Perhaps it is my fault for not having found a group of similarly minded students, but I didn’t think it would be this hard.
*The location: I thought I would enjoy rural Ohio, but I have found Kenyon’s location to be incredibly isolating. Since I don’t like parties nor have a car, I have spent many a weekend wandering the town of Gambier (which honestly consists of the College and little else) alone, feeling depressed and lonely. I have accomplished a lot of thinking in these moments, but I wish I had something else to do.

Would college life be any easier at other schools? Any schools which someone may suggest for my predicament?

(Side note: I think I would have at least have a shot at getting into almost any school to which I would apply. I ended my freshman year with a 4.00 GPA, and I can think of several professors who would write me good recommendation letters. Ideally, I would want to find a school with either very generous need-based financial aid or at least merit aid open to transfer students.)

Thank you!

I say don’t transfer for two reasons, given that you posted some positive items.

  1. It takes a few semesters to find your friend group if you are not a big extravert. You would be starting over at a new school and not have the benefit of starting together.
  2. Other than rural Ohio, the negatives you listed will be true of most schools although at a bigger school there will be more students not interested in the parties. Some of the conversations you mention are more likely to happen as an upperclassman.

To counter the above comment…
I wanted to transfer out for very similar reasons! I really disliked the student culture at my former university and had a really hard time making friends to the point where I was depressed almost every single day because I hated where I was. A lot of people told me to just wait it out and that I would find friends later, but I just knew it wasn’t going to happen. I’m really glad i went through the transfer process! I have gotten into really amazing schools that I think will be a much better fit for me and i dont regret it at all

Also, I was accepted into Cornell with a 3.83, so your 4.0 will get you VERY far. Good luck!

If you really hate it there, transfer. I transferred after my freshman year, and it was one of the best decisions I ever made.

Feeling isolated in rural Ohio is a legitimate reason for transferring, but I’m not sure an inability to make friends is. If you can’t make friends at Kenyon, why do you think it will be different somewhere else? That’s more about you than the school.

I think that it is a difficult decision. Looking at some of the positives where you currently are, and using your words:

“*The professors: All my professors were not only brilliant but also interested in my well-being…
*The political environment: …
*Student activities: I have grown to love the activities I do on campus,…”

and its affordable. This is a LOT of GOOD STUFF.

The primary downside seems to be that you are having trouble making friends. This is actually quite common, particularly for intelligent, quiet, thoughtful students. It takes time to get to know people, and seems to take longer for quiet and thoughtful people.

You talked about “being one of the few gay students at a very conservative high school”. Are there activities specifically for gay students at your current college? If so, are there enough gay students that it is okay to not like some of them because you can find others that you do like? (I will note that straight people don’t all like each other either). Do you feel that being gay is okay where you are? If not, then this strikes me as one of the things that you should be able to fix at a different school.

@Tacosaur have you completed a semester at Cornell or just been accepted?

Also, OP does have three good friends, his words. That is quite different from no friends and daily depression. Hope it works out for you at Cornell.

This makes it very difficult to find a good transfer school. Net Price Calculators won’t work for non-freshmen and little merit aid is available for transfers.

I would say take the risk of finding a college that is a better fit. Don’t ‘settle.’ As someone who transferred from a small LAC to a large ivy research university, I was happy with the decision. No school is perfect, but there will be some that are better fits than others, and I’d recommend taking the risk. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

@Sportsman88 I have been accepted for Fall 2017 so I have not started yet. And to clarify, I had a few friends but the student culture at the school made it really hard for me to get along with them. My school was very big on party culture and as someone who doesnt enjoy that, I found it hard to get along with many at my school. While partying in college is inevitable, i feel confident that I’ll feel better at Cornell or any of the other schools that accepted me, which is why i encourage the OP to transfer if he/she is not feeling comfortable with the student culture.

Thanks. And I didn’t mean that it’s not right for you to transfer and of course Cornell is a great opportunity. My recomendation to OP is based on the facts he gave.

Thank you all so much for the advice! I will take this into consideration when I decide whether or not to transfer for the spring of my sophomore year!

Hi! I attended (my top-choice) Kenyon my freshman year of college! I immediately decided to transfer the following year, for many of the same reasons. I thought at Kenyon I could finally build close friendships because I felt socially isolated in high school. Things started out okay, but I gradually become lonlier and more isolated at Kenyon and I stopped putting in the work. I don’t think this was Kenyon’s fault, though. Kenyon was a great school, and at times I regret not putting in the effort to meet new people. But ultimately, I am much happier outside of Ohio and I have a lot more opportunities and activities at a bigger state school. I’m glad you’re waiting it out to see where Kenyon where take you. Try to make the most of it!

And if it’s one thing I can offer, know that things will not magically change at a new school. I had this expectation that I couldn’t make friends because or A or B reason, but I realised it was up to me to find people to connect with. I wish the very best and congrats on finishing your freshman year!