<p>I'm a pagan. I celebrate winter solstice. So no Christmas Song</p>
<p>jk on the pagan part.</p>
<p>Wanderer, quite before I go One Song Glory upside your head!</p>
<p>The movie was decent if you go in with a clear head, making comparisons with the show will really beat the movie up. The film didn't do justice to the music, but it was still good.</p>
<p>All right, you out comeback-ed me.</p>
<p>"Ashernm: You seem to be from India, or anyway I think that you're brown. Yet you are pretty racist. Wish you were born White?"
You imply that non-whites are inherently less racist or bigoted than other groups. I'm not certain of such a thing - Larry Elder wrote a chapter on how blacks are more racist than whites - but it is not empirical at all but anecdotal, so it's not of much use.
I'll repeat the hint: Try my username (or some part thereof).</p>
<p>"Aha, now we're actually bringing some emotion to our arguments ashernm... better. Now if only you stop trying to sound so well-informed and controlled"
Except I'm not emotional about the subject (or at least try not to be).</p>
<p>"Yeh... me Chinese, white people smarter than me... ching chong ching chong ching."
East or Northeast Asians perform best on IQ tests among all nationalities. According to a book cited by Wikipedia, the top four are Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, and then China a few more ranks down (one study of Shanghai registered a staggering 109.4) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nations_by_IQ%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nations_by_IQ</a>. And increased wealth could raise China's (and others) overall score a bit, as such issues as nutrition, including breastfeeding, and vaccination affect IQ (or so I have read, as I'm not too sure on this bit).</p>
<p>Ashernm: Primo, we aren't on this forum to make "devinettes" (guesses) about your ethnicity based on your username. Nobody is interested in knowing anything about you-- anyway, I am not.
Secundo, did you also know that those people who were tested were trained? In most "East or NorthEast" Asia countries, many are trained to perform well on IQ tests from childhood. They do not have a life; they spent all their time studying in a locked house. For example, there is a 12-years-old japanese boy who can compute numbers at an inimaginable speed. He is one of the myriad trained from age four. Now, I watched the show on the Science Channel, and they also showed Daniel who is a "hyper genius." Unlike the japanese who not only use his hands, but needs total silence to concentrate, Daniel can compute numbers only by looking at them. He can tell you in 10 seconds what number is prime or not. Among others amazing things he did, Daniel learned to speak fluently a rare language in one week. Try to contrast Daniel, who was never trained, and the japanese: the former is a true genius while the latter is an automate.
This is to tell you Ashernm that they are trained to perform well on those "IQ" tests. If you train a child to do something, she/he will be very good at it. In my case, I used to speak three languages ( and could comprehend two more,) I started to learn English January 2004. Today, I am very good at it, and my next languages are Spanish and Chinese. If I can assimilate a language so quick, it is not because I am smart, but because my brain had been conditioned to integrating different languages since my childhood. You cannot compare me to somebody who was used to speaking only one language and say that I am smarter.
Ashernm, I question the accuracy of those "IQ" tests. Prove me wrong.</p>
<p>the word myriad is overused. to all ppl on this site in general- give it a rest. it had already been used a myriad of times in a myriad of places amongst a myriad of people. Does that sentence sound stupid? so do you :)</p>
<p>Christ, this thread needs to die.</p>
<p>AA is necessary, just on a socioeconomic basis and not race (and therefore most recieving AA would be minorities).</p>
<p>I must say the first page of this thread was very racist amd very ignorant.</p>
<p>haha you fail to see that AA doesnt solve the problem, which is the broken educational system</p>
<p>"Mr not so Gentleman": be advised that I do not spend my time reading every post on CC. I did not know that myriad was overused. Now I know, and I thank you.
However, YOU SOUNDED MORE STUPID THAN I DID. F*** YOU.</p>
<p>race shouldnt play a role.</p>
<p>your economic conditions should</p>
<p>Die, thread, die!</p>
<p>My two cents: I think affirmative action is only acceptable if it deals with socio-economic status, NOT race. Being a minority does not make one inherently disadvantaged; that's a silly notion. No one can argue, therefore, that a poor black applicant should be in any way preferred over an equally poor white applicant.</p>
<p>socioeconomic status AA = perfectly justifiable reason</p>
<p>The goal of an IQ test is to predict performance, the more accurately so, the more valid the test. Therein lies its value - If the test predicts say job productivity, it is valuable, for discerning who is most productive. </p>
<p>Check this page, <a href="http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/apa_01.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/apa_01.html</a> , Section II., "Tests as Predictors". This page is a "Report of a Task Force established by the Board of Scientific Affairs of the American Psychological Association."</p>
<p>Hoe you guys know that numerically there are many more non African Americans on Welfare than there are African Americans and that White women and other minorities ride the AA coatales originally designed to help African Americans get a foot in the door. And by the why African Americans were qualified when the first slave ship landed. What you are really worried about is the lack of resources - not enough spaces in the type of college you wish to attend. On average African Americans make up 4% to 10% of any elite colleges' freshman class. I am none are slackers. Hostile environments are created when we look at others in one demention. Learn to appreciate and respect one another.</p>
<p>Wellesely '79 (top urban High School student w/low SAT scores)
Vanderbilt Law '84 (passed the bar on the 1st try)
Daugther high school class of 2007, 4.2 GPA, PSAT 219 (NMS in OH)</p>
<p>mizo</p>
<p>I am Asian and I am against AA b/c. The premises for AA is inherently racist, because it assumes that everyone of colour is disadvantaged and everyone who is white is born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Merit is the best method of judging a person..I wish that people would be colourblind instead of polarizing races by AA and similar schemes.</p>