<p>Many students on College Confidential have voiced resentment at the fact that many colleges use Affirmative Action, giving URM students an "unfair" advantage in the admissions process. However, URM students contend that they were qualified enough to gain admissions into the named college.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts on this issue? Why do you agree or disagree with Affirmative Action?</p>
<p>Hasn't this discussion been held many times? Nothing new is going to be produced...</p>
<p>bigjake587: Yes, it has, but since many CC users are finding out acceptances/rejections from colleges they applied to and have seen URM students benefit/not benefit from Affirmative Action, I would like to see if opinions have changed "after the fact."</p>
<p>Its bad. No question about it. It should be socioeconomic (possibly). Not all African Americans are poor. I actually know a lot of rich African Americans. I also know a lot of poor white people who have less "opportunities" than the rich african americans.</p>
<p>You can switch that scenario, flip it, reverse it. substitute in other ethnicies. AA is unfair.</p>
<p>I was a finalist for the 7year med program at Northwestern. Certainly not because i was qualified, as i know Indian people MUCH smarter than me who they rejected. I strongly believe its because I am white, in a predominantly asian and indian program. And I felt bad for it - i still do.</p>
<p>I hope the Supreme Court can somehow strike down AA - isn't it like unconstitutional...."all men are created equal"?????</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the Supreme Court is off pursuing its own little agenda. Its funny how Congress and the executive branch oppose affirmative action. I daresay that a majority fo the country opposes affirmative action at this point, yet the Supreme Court upholds it. </p>
<p>In my opinion, none of this should have ever started. However, if it did start, it should not be continuing today. I feel that there will always be people who claim that its the fault of society and discrimination for the lack of success achieved by some group/minority, but, in the end, that's just an excuse. Affirmative action got the ball rolling. Now its time to let the natural laws of competition take effect.</p>
<p>Ivy boy,
I am completely against AA, probably moreso than you. But the phrase "all men are created equal" was in the Declaration, not the Constitution, therefore it can not be used as a basis for Constitutionality.</p>
<p>the only thing i hate about it is white people being selfish and whining about not getting their way
wah wah</p>
<p>Wow if that is not a stereotype that all White People are whiners because they are disenfranchised. Shutup usna</p>
<p>I think affirmative action sucks, for the fact that it is reverse discrimination, and it is not about merit...</p>
<p>Well it must be true since this keeps popping up. Why can't it be seen as letting the best caucasions in a school instead of minorities taking up seats? If you did not get in then you were not good enough.</p>
<p>I'm a minority, though not a racial one (disability). Thus, I have "unofficial AA" - no quotas anywhere that I know of, but people do think of me as adding to "on-campus diversity".</p>
<p>It sucks; I don't want to be the disabled kid on campus, I want to be a "kid on campus. Oh, and by the way, he has a disability". Seriously, while I've been somewhat disadvantaged by my disability, we all have crap to deal with; my crap has just been different. In other words, I think AA is ********.</p>
<p><hands everyone="" a="" big="" stick=""> "OK, lets beat the dead horse!!"</hands></p>
<p>Um, Affirmative Action is benefitting (sp?)women the most. The "African Americans are rich should not get a chance and blah blah" is tired. I agree, nothing new is produced from this thread.</p>
<p>P.S. Ivyboy, why do you feel bad? Congradulate yourself with a pat on the back and stop worrying.</p>
<p>magefile, why don't you just not indicate your disability on your ap?</p>
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<p>Hhm, usna_reject brings up a good point. Obviously AA is dumb as everyone said above, but there's always going to be discrimination. The black man had to deal giving his seat up to the white man, and now the white man whose good enough must give up his spot to the minority whose good enough. As joev said, this is beating a dead horse. Everyone needs to just deal with it or do something about it (political activism I suppose). But whining will not get you anywhere, everyone has already heard all the arguments.</p>
<p>Minorities have been oppressed for over 200 years. It wasn't until the 60s that many places in the south even allowed integrated schools. Even then it was at gunpoint. Shouldn't the poor oppressed majority wait a couple hundred years before they start complaining?</p>
<p>macattak: Are you suggesting that reverse discrimination is right?</p>
<p>Alright, macattak, I'm Jewish and my grandparents were holocaust survivors. Since my people have been oppressed for thousands of years, should I get favored college admissions for the next thousand or so years?</p>
<p>A lot of people complain about Affirmative Action and many of their arguments are valid, but what can we really do about it?? Colleges and Universities select whoever they want for whatever reasons. As a URM I get a lot of heat from people when they learn of my accomplishments with regard to scholarships, college, etc. Is it really fair to give URM's a hard time about something they have no control over??</p>
<p>Diversity of race and ethnicity is always a good thing. URMs comprise a very miniscule fraction of any college's student body, so the effect of AA is almost negligible. Lastly, private universities are legally allowed to accept or reject whomever they please.</p>
<p>bcp05, your Holocaust ancestors were not opressed in America.</p>