Affirmative Action has gone too far

<p>"So you're trying to argue that being tagged poor and unable based on the color of skin won't promote prejudice?"</p>

<p>This is only true if you believe there should be some type of prejudice against poor people.</p>

<p>I do, but that's another thread. You coudl use "lower scholastic achievement" instead of "poor" if you prefer.</p>

<p>"You coudl use "lower scholastic achievement" instead of "poor" if you prefer."</p>

<p>Youre calling all poor people dumb by using different language.</p>

<p>This is why I guess these topics never go anywhere because the initial assumptions are ignored and never debated.</p>

<p>more word games</p>

<p>how about "capable of less"?</p>

<p>You'd have to say minorities are universally capable of less to make the case that was made earlier.</p>

<p>lol............this game could go on and on</p>

<p>semantics doesnt change your intitial assumption that poor people are inferior</p>

<p>I hold that being capable of more is better than being capable of less.</p>

<p>You want to reject this?</p>

<p>"hmm, I guess what I'm really for is making decisions on economic status and all that stuff instead of AA."</p>

<p>I completely agreee, I live in a rougher part of philadelphia, I am in a minority...most of my neighbors are african american, hispanic, asian, et cetera. We all have very low income. I work my butt off in school and sacrafice a lot to get a good education, study books...but I still can't afford fancy sat prep classes just like my neighbors. However, I will not be helped out at all because of my economic disadvantage because I am white. I sometimes wish I wasn't. </p>

<p>I think it should be judged on economics, not race. definitely.</p>

<p>lol.... im not going to argue that blue is different than purple because that has nothing to do with initial assumptions and original topic. This is turning into a philosophy debate which I know wont depend on facts.</p>

<p>Maize I could prove square root of 2 is irrational that wont have anything to do with argument how is your last post any different</p>

<p>"but I'm right in this case."</p>

<p>As a Philosophy major, I'd expect you would know how to keep an open mind when approaching a debate. How can you learn, or get anything out of this conversation if you refuse to admit there may be holes in your thinking? Philosophy is about exploring the nature of man in his environment, not about insisting you know-all from the start lol.</p>

<p>But I'm glad you enjoy arguing purposelessly over the internet.</p>

<p>You want more concrete?</p>

<p>You said that saying that Black is synonymous (Re: means the same thing) as poor, low achievement, and incapable will not perpetuate prejudice.</p>

<p>Regardless of what you think of the poor or incapable, your argument is just mind-numbingly against common sense.</p>

<p>"arguing purposelessly" Is how most philosophy is done.</p>

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<p>That or work on my term paper - you see my problem? ;)</p>

<p>I agree 2bad4u. I didnt say it wasnt.</p>

<p>"You're holding that saying that Black is synonymous (Re: means the same thing) as poor, low achievement, and incapable will not perpetuate prejudice."</p>

<p>Yes with poor, no on low achievement (you tried to sneak this in once youre argument gets weak).</p>

<p>i don't like most AA threads, Maize but at least this one's interesting, well more than a term paper lol</p>

<p>haha ... well this thread has kept me from writing my scholarship essay O.O</p>

<p>"Regardless of what you think of the poor or incapable, your argument is just mind-numbingly against common sense."</p>

<p>I could easily say the same about yours, wait I just did.</p>

<p>You're confused.</p>

<p>You said Black is synonymous with poor (facts notwithstanding).
I say it isn't.</p>

<p>You say making black synonymous with "poor" won't promote prejudice.
I say it will.</p>

<p>I don't see how you can say it won't. If society accepted Black = poor, black people would be seen as lazy, dirty, and immoral (moreso than they are already). This may not be FAIR, but it would happen.</p>

<p>You may be right that people's foundation for these assertions (namely the poor are inferior) are incorrect, but these assertions would be (and are being) made.</p>

<p>There's a difference between "if something would happen" and "if something should happen." It may not be what should happen, but it is what would happen.</p>

<p>As evidence you could look at every society, anywhere, ever. They've all treated the "poor" as inferior. Where's your argument/evidence that being labeled poor won't promote prejudice this time?</p>