<p>What a cruel life we live in...</p>
<p>"we argue over the most ridiculous things in life...watch A Moment to Remember on youtube =D"</p>
<p>Link? (I searched it and there are 2390528 titles)</p>
<p>Search using "Moment to Remember part"</p>
<p>***the point is this - who gives a rats ass what people in Papua New Guinea, East Timor, South Africa, Somalia, and Afganistan think.</p>
<p>I hate to be one of these people, but for the overwhelming majority of people, the only country that matters is the United States. In the United States, MIT is more prestigious than Berkeley. Who gives a crap what the people of Sri Lanka think about where we went to school.***</p>
<p>Then why won?t you change the title of this thread and limit it to US??? Cause if that?s the case then I would not say anything because my experience in the US is limited.</p>
<p>It's hard to argue with someone whose universe revolves around the "because my dad told me so" school of logic.</p>
<p>Oh, please read between the lines. I did NOT say Wharton is inferior to HAAS. I just meant it?s really hard to choose between HAAS and Wharton these days and choosing between the two would just be a matter of fit. </p>
<p>*<a href="btw,%20Wharton's%20alumni%20network%20in%20Asia%20wasn't%20too%20shabby%20last%20time%20i%20checked">i</a> **
And did I say or mean that Wharton has a ?shabby? alumni network in Asia?</p>
<p>O.o i thought there were only 4 colleges in the world just the HYPS...</p>
<p>A few things that mystify me:</p>
<p>Why how prestigious an American college is overseas should sway anybody except the very very few who are going to APPLY for jobs overseas.</p>
<p>Why anybody with above an 81 IQ would place any faith in the Wall Street Journal rankings of people who went to the top few professional schools, as if factors other than quality wouldn't play into the data.</p>
<p>Why people keep questioning the quality of the U of Chicago, when it's been an incredible collection of brilliant and serious students and faculty for at least the past 60 years.</p>
<p>Why people think you can precisely rank things as complex as colleges.</p>
<p>Why so many people spell "definitely" incorrectly.</p>
<p>Why anybody would get excited about going to Stanford.</p>
<p>Why people on CC keep asking how much Catholicism is forced on them at Catholic colleges. Have any of you ever been to a Catholic campus and seen how similar it is to a non-Catholic campus?</p>
<p>How so few alums mention how nice it is to go have gone to a college that plays sports on national TV, so one can sort of keep in touch with the college anywhere in the country.</p>
<p>Why more people don't view college selection sort or like selection of a boyfriend/girlfriend, and acknowledge that there is no "right" and "wrong": some people prefer small, some big; some hot, some cold; some difficult, some easy; Some people like Anna Nicole Smith, some people like Jada Pinkett...there's no "right" answer for "what is the best college" or even "what is the best college for YOU.'</p>
<p>very nice post</p>
<p>"Why so many people spell "definitely" incorrectly."</p>
<p>lol my favorite.</p>
<p>But ...</p>
<p>"Why anybody would get excited about going to Stanford."</p>
<p>=(</p>
<p>I guess that was a bit of a cheap shot against Stanford. What prompted it is the concept that if you can get accepted to Stanford, you can get accepted to a lot of other fine universities whose architecture would inspire you to gleefully jump into The Critique of Pure Reason; the only thing Stanford's architecture would inspire me to do is order another round of Pina Coladas.</p>
<p>Architecture aside, Stanford has always seemed more fun and more laid back than Harvard or Yale to me; and this is coming from someone with a huge east coast bias who would think Dartmouth is the greatest school there is.</p>
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<p>For those individuals who believe that a career overseas is a distinct possibility, I'd say - at the margin - it is something to at least consider. Having said that, however, folks who claim that certain universities (<em>cough</em> Cal <em>cough, cough</em>) to be the second coming of Jerry Lewis in France, I think that's stretching it a bit (and a slap in the face to Jerry's kids I might add)... in other words, you have to ask yourself when considering claims of this perceived disparity between the "international" view vs. our current view --> is it really that radically different? i.e. once you step outside the US borders do you magically get transported into another Matrix-like reality - a reality where Cal is the undisputed mecca of the academic universe dominating over much lesser institutions like Harvard, Princeton and MIT, schools which are merely tangential academic satellites desperately trying to remain relevant and justify their existence within the Cal universe? I think not, but back to the point, things like international prestige are considerations "at the margin", in other words, if you are faced with two equally great choices, perhaps it can serve as a tie-breaker - but it shouldn't be the be all and end all of why you choose to go there. </p>
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Why anybody with above an 81 IQ would place any faith in the Wall Street Journal rankings of people who went to the top few professional schools, as if factors other than quality wouldn't play into the data.
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<p>Well, my IQ is north of 81 (by at least a couple points anyway) so let me give this a go. First, I'm not sure I'd bring "faith" into this discussion --> I mean at the end of the day, my own analysis (and subsequent conclusion) of the WSJ rankings leads me to believe that its a pretty decent proxy for examining which undergrad programs are best represented (or are best represented relative to others) when looking at the elite graduate schools -- but to be fair, there are faults - nothing is perfect (...well actually there is Jessica Alba... but I digress) - one can point to the subset of graduate programs selected by the ranking or one can gripe about the inherent differences between selection criteria for med vs. law vs. b-schools, etc. -- but in the end, absent anything better, I think it's a decent proxy - nothing less, nothing more... I mean I'm not planning on waltzing into a Lion's den (or Riker's Island) with nothing to protect me except for my trusty ole WSJ ranking any time soon nor am I planning on asking it to part the rush hour traffic for me nor would I sacrifice the USNWR ranking on an altar knowing that the WSJ ranking has my back. I have faith in a lot of things, but the WSJ ranking ain't one of them...</p>
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<p>I'm pretty sure the biggest gripe about the UChicago isn't its academics -->it seems that the majority of its biggest detractors point to the "intangibles" like the fact that its about as friendly, cheerful and stress-free a place to study as a cold and bitter rainy day in Ithaca, NY. </p>
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Why people think you can precisely rank things as complex as colleges.
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<p>That's a great question. Ignorance and arrogance (with a healthy dose of the latter).</p>
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<p>Defynitlee agree with you their.</p>
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Why anybody would get excited about going to Stanford.
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<p>HQ student body. HQ faculty. Low student-faculty ratio. Incredible academics. California lifestyle. Great sports. Great resources. Well funded. What's not to like?</p>
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Why people on CC keep asking how much Catholicism is forced on them at Catholic colleges. Have any of you ever been to a Catholic campus and seen how similar it is to a non-Catholic campus?
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<p>I think the real question is why the issue of Catholic priests forcing themselves on unsuspecting boys hasn't led the Vatican to acknowledge the clear and present connection between mandatory celibacy and clergy sexual abuse... but that's an entirely different discussion... (a discussion which should be limited to those with an IQ north of 81).</p>
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How so few alums mention how nice it is to go have gone to a college that plays sports on national TV, so one can sort of keep in touch with the college anywhere in the country.
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<p>TG, shame on you my man! Are you suggesting that alums of big-time NCAA sports programs (i.e. boosters, etc.) don't make their presence felt? Two words: Nick Saban.</p>
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Why more people don't view college selection sort or like selection of a boyfriend/girlfriend, and acknowledge that there is no "right" and "wrong": some people prefer small, some big; some hot, some cold; some difficult, some easy; Some people like Anna Nicole Smith, some people like Jada Pinkett...there's no "right" answer for "what is the best college" or even "what is the best college for YOU.'
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<p>...pls refer to my comment about Jessica Alba (you could alternatively use Adriana Lima as well) ... which is to say most of the times beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and then there is the kind of beauty that leads you to clandestinely Google their images at work.</p>
<p>"its about as friendly, cheerful and stress-free a place to study as a cold and bitter rainy day in Ithaca, NY."</p>
<p>why do you have to pick on Ithaca? The weather isn't any better in any other part of the northeast!</p>
<p>sorry about that gomestar... though i would point out that the environment in Ithaca (aside from weather) is closer to UChicago (in terms of workload, stress, etc.) than it is to, say, Stanford.</p>
<p>ah, true.*</p>
<p>*the exception would be for hotel students.</p>
<p>"I think the real question is why the issue of Catholic priests forcing themselves on unsuspecting boys"</p>
<p>lollllll perfectly said</p>
<p>I think the real question is why the issue of Catholic priests forcing themselves on unsuspecting boys hasn't led the Vatican to acknowledge the clear and present connection between mandatory celibacy and clergy sexual abuse... but that's an entirely different discussion... (a discussion which should be limited to those with an IQ north of 81).</p>
<p>Priests typically make up a small % of faculty on even the most Catholic of campuses. It's very easy to avoid them completely, if that's what you want. And the bad ones go after kids, not college students. My point was that you could spend a 4 years at a Catholic college and barely even be aware that it was Catholic...that's how similar the experience is to non-Catholic schools. If you're worried about molestation, keep your kids out of the Boy Scouts, not Georgetown.</p>
<p>Funny question.</p>
<p>If you are smart, and willing to work hard, and want to learn from some of the smartest people in the world, you have the following reasons to be excited if you go to Stanford:</p>
<p>1) you are going to a place with the most living Nobel prize winners (18, behind no where), the most living national medal of science winners (21, behind no where), 2nd most national academy members (NAS, NAE, IOM combined, only behind Harvard), 2nd most national academy of engineering members (behind MIT), 3rd most national academy of science (NAS) members (behind Harvard and Berkeley), 3rd most institute of medicine members (IOM, behind Harvard and UCSF).</p>
<p>2) No matter what department you go: in humanity, in social science, in science, in engineering, or in any of the professional schools, it is almost certain that you end up with a top 5 programs in the nation.</p>
<p>3) You are going to a university with most innovative minds who have been the inventors or leading experts in technologies such as internet, GPS, genetic engineering, microprocessor, unix workstation, laser, transistor, google search engine, IQ test, robot arm, robot car, spy satelite, and so on.</p>
<p>Finally, why should we mention HYPS? To me, it should be HSBM (Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, MIT) instead.</p>
<p>That will be 3 Pina Coladas and a shot of Tequila, por favor.</p>