Aiming for Best PreMed University!!

<p>Just a soph right now. thinking about Washington University in St. Louis, Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Cornell/ Dartmouth/Brown</p>

<p>A few questions.
Which of these schools is/ are the best in biology?
Which of these schools is the least 'cutthroat'? (a good pt for me cuz angry competitive ppl aren't really my thing)
which of these schools has the prettiest campus?
which of these schools has the most premeds and sends the most to med schools?</p>

<p>the docs in my family say washington university, duke, or northwestern fit most of my criteria (especially for laid-back premed heavy schools)
but I just want your input. thanks.</p>

<p>All of those schools are the same for pre-med. Med schools don’t care THAT much about quality of undergrad–the difference between Harvard and Southwest Montana A&M might be significant, but within the top 50 or so Universities, there’s really no substantive difference. Go wherever you can save the most money and get the highest GPA. </p>

<p>Also, pre-med programs at any good school are going to be very competitive. Schools being “cutthroat” is basically a made up cliche. There are definitely people who suck and would be willing to sabotage classmates to get ahead, but a few of these exist at every school and they don’t exist in large numbers anywhere. </p>

<p>Also, I wouldn’t worry about how many people from each school go to med school–if anything, it might be better to go to a school with fewer people interested in medicine, as it makes it easier to stand out and sometimes easier to get a good GPA. </p>

<p>All in all, given your choices, I’d go to Duke based solely on the weather. Given unlimited choices, I’d go to state school, get a good GPA, and save money for med school.</p>

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You sin, luxlibertas!</p>

<p>If he went to Duke, he could at least hang out in Chapel Hill occasionally. Not true for the other options.</p>

<p>I think WUSTL is really good for premed</p>

<p>There is not a bad choice on that list.
Since you are just a sophomore, it’s worth noting that all of those choices are very selective schools.</p>

<p>There is no best premed school… and no, Harvard, ain’t it. You can do premed anywhere; what med schools care about is your GPA, MCAT scores, leadership/volunteering activities, etc.</p>

<p>if your goal is to get into med school, better game the system. Go to a school that will adequately prepare you in the subjects tested on the MCAT, but with the easiest classes and the highest grade inflation.</p>

<p>Who will be paying for your undergrad and med school?</p>

<p>If your family will easily pay for both, go wherever you can get in.</p>

<p>If your family has limited college funds for you, spend as little as possible for undergrad (by going to your best state school), and use your college money for med school.</p>

<p>apply to all of them, and figure it out later XD</p>

<p>Or you can look for merit scholarships.</p>

<p>Washington University in St. Louis has one of the most famous premed programs. I’m a premed myself, and my friend who is interviewing for the top medical schools in the country says he will always meet at least one person from WUSTL in the schools he’s visiting. </p>

<p>Which of these schools is/ are the best in biology? They’re all ranked pretty closely for biology- any department specifically you’re interested in? But if you want numbers- US news ranks WUSTL and JHU as the top schools.
Which of these schools is the least ‘cutthroat’? (a good pt for me cuz angry competitive ppl aren’t really my thing) - WUSTL
which of these schools has the prettiest campus? - never visited most of the campuses on your list, so can’t say
which of these schools has the most premeds and sends the most to med schools? - you can probably find these numbers by emailing the school</p>

<p>If you know you want to do medicine in the future, then you should look at some Accelerated Med Programs which basically guarantee acceptance into med school after being accepted into the program.</p>

<p>Northwestern has one called HPME, Brown has one called PLME, and plenty of other schools offer this program as well. Union has one too that you complete in 8 years to get a MD and MBA if you wish. Check the premed forums.</p>

<p>Yea I agree with aabbcc
Check out the High School Topics in the Premed Forum</p>

<p>Thanks guys. my dad says he’s willing to dish out money for me to go to Washington University. he says a bunch of his medical colleagues went there and enjoyed it there. money’s not too big a concern for my parents, but i will see if i can apply to merit scholarships at the colleges. anyways you’re right. i still have a lot of time before i apply, and i better start making myself competitive at these schools, i guess.</p>

<p>Just some more info about Duke. From personal experiences, Duke has been an amazingly supportive and insightful place for me as a pre-med student.</p>

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<p>All of those schools have excellent pre-med programs. I have a good friend who just graduated from WashU (and is now accepted to medical school) and he had very positive experiences with their pre-med program and his adviser. I would think that all of those schools offer the same type of one-on-one advice and resources in their pre-med programs, but it never hurts to ask each school a few questions about their premed track, including:

  1. Will you have a premed adviser who you meet with at least once or twice a semester that will help make sure you’re on track for med school?
  2. Will said adviser help you find volunteer and medical shadowing opportunities? (with these being so vital to medical school admissions, make sure there’s some support system in place at your top schools for this)
  3. What are the acceptance rates of the school to medical school? (National average is normally less than 50% across the board. For top allopathic schools it’s much less than that)
  4. What are the undergraduate research opportunities at the school (for your major)? (This is vital if considering MD/PhD programs, and helpful in MD admissions as well)
  5. Does the premed track have an honors society, med school interview and application workshops/practice, and MCAT preparation resources?</p>

<p>Those are all things to consider when looking at the schools. I haven’t been to all of those schools, but I will say that Northwestern, Duke, and WashU all have beautiful campuses, although they are all quite different. Good luck with your search and keep us posted on what you find out!</p>

<p>I can’t guarantee this, but I believe people on these boards have been mentioning that Stanford’s percentage is about 75%. Of course, Stanford also has to deal with the UC system, so the comparison isn’t exact,</p>

<p>What does that mean?</p>

<p>85% of [Duke’s] premeds get into a medical school; this compares to a national number of around 50%, sometimes lower. (Yes, that does mean that half of all students who apply to medical school will be admitted nowhere whatsoever.)</p>

<p>Wow…I didn’t know what the percentages were of students who actually fulfill pre-med requirements and apply (and are rejected). </p>

<p>Where can we get the numbers for various schools?</p>

<p>Would you say that most get rejected because of … MCAT score? low GPA…poor GPA in pre-med classes…poor GPA in organic chem classes?</p>

<p>my dad says he’s willing to dish out money for me to go to Washington University. he says a bunch of his medical colleagues went there and enjoyed it there. money’s not too big a concern for my parents,</p>

<p>Is your dad also willing to pay $250k+ for med school (in addition to $200+ for undergrad)? Have a “heart to heart” with your dad (your dad may not know that Wash U costs over $55k per year.) If he’s willing to pay XX amount total, and that’s less than pricey undergrad PLUS med school (about $500k), do yourself a HUGE favor and pick a good undergrad that isn’t costly, so dad will pay for med school. You’ll be so relieved to graduate from med school with little or no debt. :)</p>

<p>What state are you in?</p>

<p>There are MANY schools that can provide you a great undergrad pre-med education without draining the Bank of Dad.</p>

<p>You don’t need a top ranked school for high med school acceptance rates! My small, Jesuit college has an 85% acceptance rate into med school. Just sayin’.</p>