Alabama vs Auburn National Merit scholarship

<p>hey mom - my dd is interested in something maybe in the medical field. she is thinking physical therapy right now, so something along the lines to end up there. maybe nursing, but that might be to “gross”. </p>

<p>i read a few things about neuroscience and that sounds interesting, medical, and not gross.</p>

<p>she is not super strong in math/science, but i would say she is stronger in math/science than english type subjects.</p>

<p>other things that might be appealing are things like radiology/nuclear medicine related. i am guessing there are decent jobs in that field that are not MD, but i am not sure if they are all just tech jobs. looking for something in between tech and MD.</p>

<p>chances are she will go in and change her mind anyway …</p>

<p>and yes, i am all for saving money in this process, but when it comes down to comparing every little thing, i guess i figure that getting a nice big scholarship is pretty good. there wil likely be surprises along the way no matter how much i think i know ahead of time.</p>

<p>one thing i realized today … my DD will likely have 21-29 credits going in, so that will free up a semester for study abroad or internship. i knew she had some hours, but i didn’t realize it was so many. i know that is not a huge number, but it might help with some of the problems like 15 hours per semester etc.</p>

<p>Mike, thanks for the post. We’re leaning this way with son as well. Not doing too well in physics and calc, and engineering might not work out for him. Since his interest is in biomedical engineering, he might lean toward a health related field that is techie but not MD. Because of this, also, we’re actually going to take the extra engineering money out of the equation, so won’t weight too heavily on that money in final decision.</p>

<p>Also good point about the credits. Hoping son will choose the less hoity toidy schools that will actually give him credit for his AP, some of the higher ranked schools won’t give him any credits since he’s got mostly 3s, so he can have a little leeway for study abroad and just interest classes if time. Also would be nice to add a double major in there, too. </p>

<p>Good luck to all on apps and decisions.</p>

<p>Mike </p>

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<p>What about physicians asst? That’s higher than a nurse practitioner. PAs can write Rx, but do work under a MD. I think it’s a 2 year program after BS. UAB has a good PA program.</p>

<p>we have discussed PA. and, frankly, UAB sounds like a good fit for her interests, but i am not sure she will go for UAB. she wants the atmosphere of UA (or similar) but the offerings of UAB.</p>

<p>would there be a good path toward PA with UA first and then a PA program second? </p>

<p>what would be a good major if you wanted to end up in PA school.</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>There’s nothing wrong with pursuing a pre-health major at UA and then applying to the PA program at UAB for grad level. I can see doing that if a student wants to be at a campus for undergrad that has a more “full college experience”.</p>

<p>There are several good paths that could lead a student to the PA program. </p>

<p>Biology
Chemistry
Engineering</p>

<p>The pre-professional/pre-med advisor would probably be the best to advise your child which major would be best. Of course all pre-med students (and I think a PA would need a pre-med undergrad) have to take certain courses no matter what their majors are.</p>

<p>pre-professional advising: [University</a> of Alabama Undergraduate Catalog 2008-10](<a href=“Page Not Found | The University of Alabama”>Page Not Found | The University of Alabama)
For more information, contact the health professions advisors at (205) 348-5970. </p>

<p>Pre-professional Preparation</p>

<p>Many College of Arts and Sciences graduates go on to medical school, law school, dental or optometry school, physical or occupational therapy programs, or other health-related or professional study. Arts and Sciences majors provide excellent preparation for all of these programs and the College’s pre-professional advising programs are very supportive. Student organizations, including Alpha Epsilon Delta, the pre-medical honorary in which UA is the alpha chapter, are also important parts of pre-professional preparation. </p>

<p>Pre-Medical Program </p>

<p>The pre-medical program advisors assist students in academic planning needed to meet the admissions requirements for medical school. The advisors also provide students with assistance in preparing for interviews, scheduling the MCAT, developing recommendations, and submitting application materials. Student organizations, especially Alpha Epsilon Delta, are important parts of the pre-medical education of UA students. Information about these organizations can be obtained from the pre-med advisors. </p>

<p>Students interested in pursuing a career in medicine may choose from a wide variety of programs that will both fulfill specific requirements for admission to medical school and allow them to pursue individual academic interests. Students preparing to enter medical school should consult the catalog of the medical school of interest early in their undergraduate careers in order to be informed of each school’s admissions requirements. </p>

<p>Although specific admissions requirements vary, most medical schools require the courses listed below. Most of these courses should be completed in the freshman and sophomore years. </p>

<p>[The following courses are strongly recommended in addition to what a student’s own major might require.]</p>

<p>Courses Hours
BSC 114:115 or BSC 118 4
BSC 116:117 or BSC 120 4
CH 101 or CH 117 4
CH 102 or CH 118 4
CH 231 3
CH 232 3
CH 237 2
PH 101, PH 105, or PH 125 4
PH 102, PH 106, or PH 126 4
MATH 125 or MATH 145 4 </p>

<p>Since admission to professional schools is highly competitive, students planning careers in the health professions should be aware that satisfactory completion of pre-professional requirements does not guarantee admission to professional schools. Therefore, students are advised to plan undergraduate programs with some attention to possible alternative goals. Periodically, the health professions advisors will assist students in realistically evaluating their potential for admission to professional schools. </p>

<p>The pre-medical program advisor is the primary advisor for students who enter the University as pre-medical until they declare a specific major. After that and for other students who have an interest in medicine, the advisor is available as a secondary advisor to assist specifically with issues related to medical school preparation.</p>

<p>BTW…if AP class credit fulfills much of the above req’ts, it’s often advised to take a higher level course since med schools sometimes won’t accept AP credit.</p>

<p>thanks mom! you’re the bomb!!</p>

<p>The non-resident fees will apply to any extra hours (my daughters name here) takes at
Auburn. However, as a National Hispanic Scholar, students are awarded an
additional $1,000 to $2,000 stipend per year which can help cover
additional classes. I hope this helps!</p>

<p>War Eagle!
Virginia Elliott</p>

<p>Virginia Elliott '07
Admissions Advisor
Office of University Recruitment
115 Quad Center
Auburn University</p>

<p>This is the email I received from Auburn today. I guess the extra hours are not at resident rates.</p>

<p>Auburn–full tuition 15 credit hours a semester…
Alabama- full tuition 16 credit hours a semester…</p>

<p>Auburn–$4000 for study abroad
Alabama-$2000 for study abroad</p>

<p>Auburn–Annual stipend $1000-$2000 per year
Alabama-Annual stipend $1000 per year</p>

<p>Auburn–$1500 technology allowance
Alabama-Free laptop compute</p>

<p>Auburn–$4400 housing allowance
Alabama-regular room rate in any building</p>

<p>Changes made</p>

<p>so what would that amount to in extra fees per hour??</p>

<p>$774 per credit hour</p>

<p>Auburn Charges</p>

<p>What did Auburn say about the $246 per semester “Student Fee”? Is that included?</p>

<p>And what about this:
Auburn Undergraduate College of Business students are charged a professional fee of $520 per year for Freshman and Sophomore classification, $1120 per year for JR and SR classification.</p>

<p>Auburn charges $540 to do Study Abroad … is that charged to NMF students? (I looked, but I don’t see a similar charge for Alabama students)</p>

<p>I haven’t asked about the student fees yet. As for the college of business fees, my daughter has completely ruled out business so I’m not so concerned, but that might be valuable info for other students. </p>

<p>Thanks to all who have added valuable info to this thread. I started this thread to get an idea just how much each college would cost me. Prior to this year, I was figuring with Florida Bright futures, college was going to run me about $12,000-$15,000 per year. So I am telling my daughter to go with her heart.</p>

<p>^^^
Good idea. And, glad that you have so many affordable choices!</p>

<p>LOL for some reason, I thought you were in Texas. :slight_smile: You’re a Floridian! :)</p>

<p>And, yes…I did post that Business Admin fee info in case anyone might be interested.</p>

<p>i’m in texas!</p>

<p>: )</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>I know, but I thought Navarre was in Texas, too for some reason. :)</p>

<p>Nope, Navarre, Fl on the Florida panhandle</p>

<p>Well, then, howdy neighbor! LOL</p>

<p>Just butting in here to say, as a Birmingham native, this thread makes me smile. I’m so happy that BOTH the state flagships are in contention for deserving students. Just wish my own dd would express some interest but alas she wants an LAC…</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>Has your D gone on either campus tour? If she’d qualify for honors, she’d get some of that small school feel within a big school. </p>

<p>While smaller schools (such as LACs) can be nice, one problem can be that there may not be a choice of profs when selecting a class. That can be a big problem if you don’t like a prof and he/she is the only one teaching the course. At larger univerisities, often 2 or more profs teach the same course. Larger schools usually have more choices for eating venues, better rec facilities, more extra-curriculars to attend, more majors to choose from, etc.</p>

<p>If she’s refusing to visit either campus, is it possible to “dangle a carrot” as an incentive to visit? I have a friend who sorely wishes she’d “forced” her D to visit either school by offering some incentive. Her D went to the school of her choice, and now wants to leave. She will likely now go to Bama, but won’t be eligible for the scholarships as a transfer.</p>

<p>If you can get her to do a campus visit (even if she’s been on both campuses for other purposes in the past), try to also visit the honors college and the honors dorms (if she’d qualify). :)</p>

<p>blount might be a good alternative for a kid who wants an LAC.</p>