All UVa frats on suspension

<p><a href=“Sabrina Rubin Erdely, UVA: Why didn’t a Rolling Stone writer talk to the alleged perpetrators of a gang rape?”>http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/12/sabrina_rubin_erdely_uva_why_didn_t_a_rolling_stone_writer_talk_to_the_alleged.single.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Jackie declined to be interviewed by Slate. She has been interviewed by the Washington Post for a story that has yet to run. Hopefully, the Post will do more investigation than RS before running the story.</p>

<p>I don’t think the police did much investigating, but I wanted the report in just in case other similar cases turned up, or in case my stuff turned up. Fortunately, the thieves stole stuff I didn’t grieve over. If they’d taken bikes, I would have been heartbroken.</p>

<p>“Shame is a feeling. Police can’t make you feel one way or the other. That just happens. You could have felt stupid about leaving the door unlocked but rape is a more sensitive issue. That’s the shame problem.”</p>

<p>Women are taught and encouraged to feel this shame. Often as a way to keep them quiet and complicit. That is the problem. Saying “it just happens” is what people doing the shaming say to relieve their responsibility. </p>

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<p>Given that an insurance company will not even speak to you without a police report? I think you may not have gotten the full story. </p>

<p>Much2Learn, I am very impressed with your posts, along with poetgrl’s and a few others. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that. :)</p>

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<p>Calling them and reporting it over the phone constitutes a sufficient report.</p>

<p>Wondering what the relationship is between UVA and their local police department. Guess what I am really wondering is how vigorously the police department will pursue this investigation. </p>

<p>Eliminate all booze except beer…</p>

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<p><a href=“University of Virginia Rape Fall Out: Interview Teresa Sullivan | TIME”>University of Virginia Rape Fall Out: Interview Teresa Sullivan | TIME;

<p>OH God. Fraternities should regulate themselves? </p>

<p>These people are really not getting it yet.</p>

<p>The way some are describing what happened to Jackie (and others in general) when she reported the rape does not jive with her post-RS article letter to Dean Eramo. It sounds like she was very satisfied with how she was treated.</p>

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<p>Ugh. What’s going on with that? Young men get invited to join a fraternity and then celebrate by assaulting someone? Or existing fraternity members welcome the new pledge class with a celebratory rape? Or men denied membership console themselves by attacking women? None of those say anything good about the contribution of fraternities to campus culture.</p>

<p>That is Sullivan’s response? Fraternities should regulate themselves? This woman is useless.</p>

<p>“The way some are describing what happened to Jackie (and others in general) when she reported the rape does not jive with her post-RS article letter to Dean Eramo. It sounds like she was very satisfied with how she was treated.”</p>

<p>That does not surprise me and is the goal at many colleges. Help the victim cope, while discouraging her from reporting it, but always making it seem like you are not discouraging her. You are just “explaining her options” and what that may mean. You are providing information, but it is her choice. </p>

<p>The problem is that this behavior in the past is why so many young women are being raped today. It has done absolutely nothing to put an end to the behavior. They just cope with one incident at a time because stopping the behavior means unfavorable PR for the school, so they try to hide it under the rug.</p>

<p>Please don’t rely too much on second hand sources reporting one or two sentences of President Sullivan’s statements. Here is her most recent presentation on the issue, in text and video.</p>

<p><a href=“Important University of Virginia Messages Regarding Sexual Assault | UVA Today”>Important University of Virginia Messages Regarding Sexual Assault | UVA Today;

<p>In answer to a previous question, I believe the Charlottesville Police Dept. is a very professional department. Cville is a very well-educated town, and they wouldn’t put up with anything else.</p>

<p>Please don’t rely too much on second hand sources reporting one or two sentences of President Sullivan’s statements. Here is her most recent presentation on the issue, in text and video.</p>

<p><a href=“Important University of Virginia Messages Regarding Sexual Assault | UVA Today”>Important University of Virginia Messages Regarding Sexual Assault | UVA Today;

<p>Much2learn,
I get that you think the entire system is rigged against rape victims, and I tend to agree with you, but can you explain how you would have handled the incident differently if you were Dean Eramo ? (not that we even know what she said)</p>

<p>Eramo was not bound to confidentiality. The article says that she told some other administrators Jackie’s name and something about the alleged crimes.</p>

<p>So if she wasn’t bound to confidentiality, and she heard of an alleged gang rape at a fraternity, and then later heard about two more alleged gang rapes, why was no investigation of these fraternities launched? </p>

<p>Maybe because Jackie didn’t tell them the name of the fraternity, out of extreme fear. </p>

<p><a href=“Former Dem Staffer Gets No Jail Time After Pleading Guilty To Rape - TPM – Talking Points Memo”>Former Dem Staffer Gets No Jail Time After Pleading Guilty To Rape - TPM – Talking Points Memo;

<p>This is the sort of thing that is maddening. No jail time for admitted rape! That prosecutor needs to be called out and more headlines made of stuff like this. Why report rape if the perp doesn’t get jail time? </p>

<p>Admitted rapists at UVa don’t even get thrown out of school.</p>